sprayin77 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I have a 07 vw rabbit 2.5 that just died while driving one day last week. i replaced the fuel pump and still no start. then started searching deeper since i dont have a scanner to pull the code. i pulled all 5 plugs then checked for spark absolutely none. so then i replaced the crank positioning sensor and cam positioning sensor and still nothing. Is there something else im missing the car only has 70k on it and there should be no timing chain issues. any help at all would be appreciated. i wouldnt think 5 coils would go bad at the same time. or maybe the ecu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I have a 07 vw rabbit 2.5 that just died while driving one day last week. i replaced the fuel pump and still no start. then started searching deeper since i dont have a scanner to pull the code. i pulled all 5 plugs then checked for spark absolutely none. so then i replaced the crank positioning sensor and cam positioning sensor and still nothing. Is there something else im missing the car only has 70k on it and there should be no timing chain issues. any help at all would be appreciated. i wouldnt think 5 coils would go bad at the same time. or maybe the ecu? Have the Chains been swapped out yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 no they havent been swapped out yet but 70k? isn that kinda soon to break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Not really, they start to show signs around 60K. Were you driving and it quit running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 yeah i was driving and it just died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Just to be safe pull the Oil cap, and have somebody crank the motor. VW is big on V/C baffling but see if you can see the cam spinning. If it is, it may be a good time to line everything up and see if it s out of place. I would get a hold of somebody with VAG-com and see what codes are stored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 ok will c tomorrow. any other options? is there anything that runs the coils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 You need to get it scanned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 i know i need to get it scanned but would have to tow it somewhere to do that. i will be ordering a scanner tomorrow unless someone on here has one they could swing by the shop and scan it real quick. are scanner we have is out dated and wont work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I have one. Where is your shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 it is on the corner of watkins rd and st rt 40 in pataskala. elite auto services. not my shop i just work there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 scanned it today and pulled the codes -Check-Engine-Code-P0351-P0352-P0353-P0354-P0355. this is a problem with all 5 coils. any ideas on what will need done to fix this? i highly doubt all 5 coils went bad at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 scanned it today and pulled the codes -Check-Engine-Code-P0351-P0352-P0353-P0354-P0355. this is a problem with all 5 coils. any ideas on what will need done to fix this? i highly doubt all 5 coils went bad at the same time. Oddly it could be. VW has a recall for the coils on 2005-2007 Golfs, Jettas, and Rabbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 just got off the phone with hatfield vw and per the vin# my coils have already been changed on the recall. There service dept had no clue what is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Gen Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I had a 2000 tundra that I installed Bosch platinum plus in and they destroyed the coils. Were you running the stock plugs? Never installed anything in my Yota's other than NGK's after that (Not cheap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 yes the plugs that came out were vw plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Looks like u need to get a coil and see if there is more than one bad. Replace each coil with new one and see if it fixes it. If not more coils might me needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Looks like u need to get a coil and see if there is more than one bad. Replace each coil with new one and see if it fixes it. If not more coils might me needed. I'm not a VW guy but that would be my first step. If you're getting all those codes, chances are really good the coils are bad. How? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 not really it is very highly unlikely all 5 went bad at the same time. coils dont go out like that they go in pairs or just 1 but 5?? plus the car didnt run rough it just quit running and wouldnt start back up at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Break out a Bentley manual (or something better than Haynes and Chiltons) if you have one and check the Ohms readings off the primary and secondary side of one just to make sure it's within spec. Have you checked the harness for breaks or chaffing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 not really it is very highly unlikely all 5 went bad at the same time. coils dont go out like that they go in pairs or just 1 but 5?? plus the car didnt run rough it just quit running and wouldnt start back up at all. You must not have been a tech, things like this have happened many times. Is it common, no, but it happens. Start by diaging the coils, then move on from there if they are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 You must not have been a tech, things like this have happened many times. Is it common, no, but it happens. Start by diaging the coils, then move on from there if they are good. agreed. I have read countless times on VW/Audi cars where the majority of the coils will go at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Ok update.. I changed all 5 coils today and the car still throws the same codes??? It does atleast start up and run now but very badly. I checked all the wires from the ecm harness all the way to the coils looking and continuity, grounds also. everything tested out fine. Any other suggestions??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I would have started with the coils myself. Always do on a VW when I service them. Is Elite Spraying there or was that just a rumor I heard you guys werent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 This is my vw we dont even attempt to fix them at all really but my dumb ass bought one. Now im more than likely gonna have to take it to a dealer to figure out what the hell is wrong with it. And yeah we paint here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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