How did this not get publicized???

[Casper]

http://www.examiner.com/x-5919-Norfolk-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d30-Illegal-alien-child-molester-secretly-awarded-4-million-by-Orange-County-CA

Edited October 4, 2010 by Casper
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[chevysoldier]

Hmm, California huh. You don't say.

I don't give a shit what happened to him in prison. Good riddance.

[Cheech]

I don’t know which is more outrageous, the now-daily accounts of illegal aliens raping our women and children; our elected officials allowing our land to be transformed into a Third World nation; or a complicit mainstream press, eager to assist in the cover-up of our destruction.

the DERP is strong with this one.

[DangBruhY]

It's typical. I expected no less out of our government.

[Fonzie]

What is this "Examiner" you keep posting from?

Isn't there a tabloid by that name??

[Decimation]

America.

[Goldie]

Jesus christ, we are a pathetic country.

Should have told him if he hadn't been here illegally, he wouldn't have raped that girl, then got his ass whooped. Too bad his injuries weren't more severe, like death.

[Decimation]

Jesus christ, we are a pathetic country.

Should have told him if he hadn't been here illegally, he wouldn't have raped that girl, then got his ass whooped. Too bad his injuries weren't more severe, like death.

He was probably told this; however, he doesn't speak English. Probably replied "Que?" as he was staring at the little girl. Country's falling apart.

[CoolWhip]

Wow... just wow... this is so sad, on so many levels.

[InyaAzz]

There's a little more to the story than what the OP has:

http://www.ocregister.com/news/county-192997-ramirez-eisenberg.html

County officials have agreed to pay more than $4 million to settle a lawsuit brought by an undocumented Mexican immigrant who was beaten by inmates while in custody at the Orange County jail, the man's attorney said Monday.

The settlement appears to be the largest ever paid by Orange County for an in-custody incident involving county sheriffs, according to county officials and the man's lawyer.

Fernando Ramirez, then 21, was left brain-damaged by inmates in Module A at the Orange County Central Jail in June 2006. He was jailed after a 6-year-old girl told her mother a stranger touched her over her clothes on her private parts at El Salvador Park in Santa Ana. Ramirez was charged with child molestation but eventually pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of non-sexual battery, said his attorney, Mark Eisenberg.

But Eisenberg said the jail's classification of his client contributed to the attack because other prisoners became aware of the sexual assault allegation. Deputies in charge of monitoring the jail that night were elsewhere in the jail when the attack occurred, Eisenberg said.

The ensuing beating left Ramirez with the intellect of a 4-year-old child. He is unable to walk unassisted and will need help for the rest of his life, said Eisenberg.

County officials declined comment on the settlement. However, a spokesman did confirm that the next highest pay out for an in-custody incident was a $650,000 settlement paid in 2002 to the family of a man who died in 1998 after scuffling with deputies in the jail.

County supervisors gave their lawyers authorization to settle the lawsuit earlier this month in a closed session.

Eisenberg said a final settlement was approved Apr. 17 and described the amount as $3.75 million for Ramirez's family along with nearly $900,000 to cover all outstanding medical liens for medical care rendered while in custody.

The attack occurred months before another highly publicized inmate jail beating which resulted in the death of John Derek Chamberlain, who had been jailed on suspicion of possessing child pornography.

After The Orange County Register published an investigation of deputies' role in that case, a criminal grand jury probed the Chamberlain beating.

The grand jury described a culture among deputies of lax oversight of prisoners as well as a culture of cover-up regarding deputy actions. Two assistant sheriffs and seven deputies resigned during the fallout from the grand jury investigation.

The disclosures from the Chamberlain grand jury, as well as the 2007 federal indictment of former Sheriff Mike Carona on unrelated corruption charges, presented challenges for the county during a jury trial.

"The county was vigorously fighting any effort by Ramirez and his counsel to have anything introduced from Chamberlain," Eisenberg said, adding that he reviewed such motions during trial preparations.

"I think the grand jury report was influential," he said. "I also think the criminal conviction of Sheriff Carona, albeit on the limited count of witness tampering, was also influential."

"It was a chapter in the county's history that needed to be closed. And these two factors, Chamberlain and Carona, played a role," Eisenberg said. "It certainly influenced the powers that be to conclude that this case was one that should be settled."

Eisenberg said his side also had challenges facing a conservative jury pool in Orange County, because of Ramirez's immigration status and the nature of his arrest.

"Both sides had problems," he said.

For example, Chamberlain's family accepted a settlement of $600,000 in large part because of the potential impact on jurors due to the sexual nature of the allegations against him.

Eisenberg called the settlement "fair" noting that it will take care of Ramirez's medical needs for the rest of his life. He credited county officials for "stepping up and doing the fair and responsible thing."

While County Supervisor John Moorlach would not comment on the details of the Ramirez settlement, he did say that Sheriff Sandra Hutchens has turned around a lax culture within the jails.

His chief of staff, Mario Mainero, recently took a tour of the jails and said the infrastructure, staff and inmates showed a very different attitude since his first jail tour in the wake of the Chamberlain death.

Moorlach also said several changes - such as cameras, more visible and mobile guards and a full shuffling of top managers - has helped to begin changing the culture that contributed to the Chamberlain and Ramirez beatings.

"We're seeing management get involved," Moorlach said. "And what I'm getting as feedback is that we're seeing dramatic change."

[dorifto240]

It's typical. I expected no less out of our government.

The last time citizens became disillusioned with their government, a few of them got together in a pub in Boston and started tossing around radical ideas like freedom, independence, inalienable rights and representation in government.

Just throwing that one out there.

[Decimation]

The last time citizens became disillusioned with their government, a few of them got together in a pub in Boston and started tossing around radical ideas like freedom, independence, inalienable rights and representation in government.

Just throwing that one out there.

I don't see anything good like that coming out of today's society.

[Cheech]

There's a little more to the story than what the OP has:

http://www.ocregister.com/news/county-192997-ramirez-eisenberg.html

Thank you, a multi-faceted objective viewpoint instead of "hurr, America's turning into a third-world nation! durr!"

[sv'dup]

Is this the same state of California that can't afford to pay state employees? And why are inmates the only people to give pedophiles a proper punishment. Its really simple, touch the kiddies and you will be beaten out of your carcass.

[Disclaimer]

Is this the same state of California that can't afford to pay state employees? And why are inmates the only people to give pedophiles a proper punishment. Its really simple' date=' touch the kiddies and you will be beaten out of your carcass.[/quote']I think you touch children

[Casper]

There's a little more to the story than what the OP has:

http://www.ocregister.com/news/county-192997-ramirez-eisenberg.html

I guess I'm confused. Are you justifying the payout?

[Casper]

The last time citizens became disillusioned with their government, a few of them got together in a pub in Boston and started tossing around radical ideas like freedom, independence, inalienable rights and representation in government.

Just throwing that one out there.

Truth.

[Decimation]

Is this the same state of California that can't afford to pay state employees? And why are inmates the only people to give pedophiles a proper punishment. Its really simple' date=' touch the kiddies and you will be beaten out of your carcass.[/quote']

Pretty sure San Francisco doesn't allow military recruiters in their city, as well. Then there's Berkeley. The whole state should just be cast away.

[InyaAzz]

I guess I'm confused. Are you justifying the payout?

I'm not justifying anything. I'm saying there is more to the story than what you originally posted. The jail has a history of this type of thing happening. The guards were looking the other way when it happened. The guy wasn't convicted of sexual assault. it was NON SEXUAL BATTERY. Yes, the charge was originally sex related, and yes I have kids and yes I get it. So, instead of presenting the whole truth, the story is presented as an illegal alien sex abuser gets beat down and gets 4 million.

So what don't you understand?

Edited July 14, 2010 by InyaAzz

[Cheech]

The last time citizens became disillusioned with their government, a few of them got together in a pub in Boston and started tossing around radical ideas like freedom, independence, inalienable rights and representation in government.

Just throwing that one out there.

Great, thanks. So are you just another one of those people who are "just asking questions" and just building up impotent rage or are you actually doing something to change the political climate in America?

[psyco1]

The last time citizens became disillusioned with their government, a few of them got together in a pub in Boston and started tossing around radical ideas like freedom, independence, inalienable rights and representation in government.

Just throwing that one out there.

I thought the last time they voted to split Belgium.

[ninjascott]

Let that be the other way around,let it be a us citizen in mexico, he would never be heard from again!

[CattaniAFJ]

Eh, I could care less. The fact that he was here illegally trumps all. Stay in your own country unless you want to come here legally and contribute to society. IMO, anyone that inappropriately touches children should get the same, and have it televised as well. This sick fuck is one reason I about had a heart attack when I heard I was having a daughter.

[dorifto240]

Great, thanks. So are you just another one of those people who are "just asking questions" and just building up impotent rage or are you actually doing something to change the political climate in America?

Yes and yes. Yes I am active trying to change the political climate, and i'm active in a few different groups. And yes I'm asking questions and building up impotent rage.

How do you change something that big and powerful and established and entrenched? Most of America wanted financial reform a better (more direct) stimulus package, and a better health care plan. Yet, big businesses and well heeled advocacy groups lobbied and completely neutered any real change to the system. The government blatantly ignored the will of the people; our representatives don't care/ don't listen. So option 1,: activisim and demanding change from our leaders clearly doesn't work.

Secondly, if the two established parties don't put their weight behind a candidate, no one hears about them! The paperwork and costs to file as an independent candidate are ridiculous. You need a political party just to begin the process of getting elected. So working from within the system is impossible to get started.

Option 3 of course is to revolt/rebel. Save for the fact that it would be just me, unarmed, trying to rebel. Not a choice favorite.

Show me where to start; I know what to do once I get there.

::steps down from soap box::

Sorry about that

[chevysoldier]

Option 3 of course is to revolt/rebel. Save for the fact that it would be just me, unarmed, trying to rebel. Not a choice favorite.

There would be quite a few I'd imagine.