scottie.harris Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Ok i drive a Buick Regal with the 3.8 V6 Series II motor in it, absolutly love it. Loved it so much that i was considering to buy a new buick. However i noticed after looking into the new buicks that have 4 bangers in them, i was disapointed to say the least.I understand that the economy is down and gas is expensive, but they couldnt make it at least an option? They've had the 3.8 in the Grand Nationals, thats how long that i know of that they've had them out. At least the 05-09 Lacrosse's still look good and have the 3.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 My '77 Olds had the 3.8L Buick engine in it also. Back then it was the 231CI v-6. It was first introduced in that size in '75 or so. It is a shame to see that series engine be canceled as most of them where good running, long lasting machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie.harris Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Exactly, they were great motors. It was a very popular motor, it was in the monte carlos, impalas, v6 camaros, gran prix( GTP sc as well), buick regals, and many others. I didnt even know they had it back in the mid 70's.Heck it made it thru my girlfriends driving so it must be something special, and my "highschool hotrod" days. I beat my friend in his Iroc Z28 with it, and several eclipses. Now i drive it like im 60 years old(no joke). Ive been thinking about turning this car into a GN tribute, all black and possibly try to turbo the engine. or just buy a GS(supercharged). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Strong motors for sure. I have seen 300,000 miles out of engines with good maintenance. It is the transmission that is the weak link. You can not compare the 3.8 engine and the 3800 that gm did for all their fwd cars. Totally different animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie.harris Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 +1what i dont understand is why they switched the 3800 to a supercharger unlike the old 3.8 with a turbo?As far as the trannys go, i heard from many reviews that they are great, one of the best shifting for auto any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 If you have ever wanted to turbo the 3.8L they can make insane horsepower with enough money. A stock GN could push 450 plus with the right chip and the turbo turned way up, injectors and such. After that you are starting to look at stage II heads and block girdles with lots of billet parts inside. There are people pushing over 800hp from that motor. There is still debate about one guy getting 1000+ from a GN. If you look up Chris Chow Grand national. It smokes the wheels on the dyno and still puts down 1077HP. Most people claim that was after he switched to a v-8 motor but I have never seen a definitive answer or pictures of the car with the hood up.I just continue to bow down to GNX awesomeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie.harris Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 lol 800hp is more than enough, unless your racing for a purpose. I was gonna say i think i heard about that guy, and i heard the same rumor. still gnx rocks, the reason they stopped making it is because GM didnt like something beating its vette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 +1what i dont understand is why they switched the 3800 to a supercharger unlike the old 3.8 with a turbo?As far as the trannys go, i heard from many reviews that they are great, one of the best shifting for auto any way.Trans start coming apart at 300 whp in stock form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit12 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I had a '78 Sunbird with the 231ci engine, it had a 4 speed behind it. I bought for like 500 bucks , ran the wheels off of it. The car gave up not the engine I sold the car for 500 because when the turbo Regals came out they were hard on engines and a local guy had one with a blown engine and wanted mine. He slapped down 500 and never batted an eye because at that time the salvage yards had waiting lists for the 3.8's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Ive been thinking about turning this car into a GN tribute, all black and possibly try to turbo the engine.Would you be able to kick it sideways at 140+ then or would you need to step up to a V8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I always thought they were kinda overrated without some sort of FI, then again I'm more of a V8 guy anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 There are some really nice "DIY" upgrades you can do for the electronics on those! Running the Syclone/Typhoon computer, and code base (has to be changed around a bit, but it's out there) LSx coils (with eDist to make them work) Newer, larger, MAF, intercoller and plenum work, and on and on. Unfortunately, one of the "pioneers" in modifying the GMECM stuff, that had a GN project on-going, passed away a few years ago. I've been out of the loop since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I always thought they were kinda overrated without some sort of FI, then again I'm more of a V8 guy anyway+1. The Japanese V-6's are much better in terms of power and refinement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 LC24Lifehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V6_engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 +1. The Japanese V-6's are much better in terms of power and refinement.I would say Ford might be holding their own now with the ecoboost. I am not a v6 guy. However, this ecoboost platform is looking pretty bad ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 The 3800 was cancelled 2 years ago, where were you? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 doing 140+ sideways in 2 inches of snow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 doing 140+ sideways in 2 inches of snow?Damn! Beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 +1. The Japanese V-6's are much better in terms of power and refinement.I must have my red white and blue blinders on, because I just don't see this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I must have my red white and blue blinders on, because I just don't see this...the only one i know of and have an experience with to validate this claim is the 2JZ in the Supra's but I believe thats an Inline 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I must have my red white and blue blinders on, because I just don't see this...Try Nissans VQ series. Honda, Toyota and Nissan all have V-6 motors that make 300 or more HP without forced induction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Try Nissans VQ series. Honda, Toyota and Nissan all have V-6 motors that make 300 or more HP without forced induction.ehh personally the VQ isn't much to write home about unless you throw a turbo at it. I had one and by no means was it terrible but just seemed like an average V6 to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 the only one i know of and have an experience with to validate this claim is the 2JZ in the Supra's but I believe thats an Inline 6Those things are insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 ehh personally the VQ isn't much to write home about unless you throw a turbo at it. I had one and by no means was it terrible but just seemed like an average V6 to meI tried the 370Z and loved the sounds it made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I tried the 370Z and loved the sounds it made.i'll give you that for sure, the exhaust note was half the reason I ended up buying my old G35 instead of an M3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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