Considering 1st purchase, couple questions...

[SWing'R]

...well, not really first purchase, but first purchase in a long time!

I had two handguns back in the late 80's, sold them, haven't had any since.

Considering getting a small handgun, probably a revolver. Nothing

fancy for right now. But it's been so long since I've owned any guns

I have a few basic questions.

What's involved with a purchase from a dealer/store?

Background checks? Waiting periods?

What's involved with a purchase from a gun show?

I see there is one this weekend @ Westland Mall.

Whats the current law/rule for transporting your gun in a vehicle?

Thanks in advance guys.

[chevysoldier]

At a dealer, you'll go through an instant background check. Takes like 15 minutes. Name, Social Security number, address.... No waiting periods.

Gun show, no background check, no waiting period. If you don't have a CHL for transportation in cannot be loaded, magazines and speed loaders included and ...

1547.69 Firearm prohibitions.

(A) As used in this section:

(1) “Firearm” and “handgun” have the same meanings as in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code.

(2) “Unloaded” has the same meaning as in section 2923.16 of the Revised Code.

(B) No person shall knowingly discharge a firearm while in or on a vessel.

© No person shall knowingly transport or have a loaded firearm in a vessel in a manner that the firearm is accessible to the operator or any passenger.

(D) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a vessel unless it is unloaded and is carried in one of the following ways:

(1) In a closed package, box, or case;

(2) In plain sight with the action opened or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or that cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.

(E)(1) The affirmative defenses authorized in divisions (D)(1) and (2) of section 2923.12 of the Revised Code are affirmative defenses to a charge under division © or (D) of this section that involves a firearm other than a handgun. It is an affirmative defense to a charge under division © or (D) of this section of transporting or having a firearm of any type, including a handgun, in a vessel that the actor transported or had the firearm in the vessel for any lawful purpose and while the vessel was on the actor’s own property, provided that this affirmative defense is not available unless the actor, prior to arriving at the vessel on the actor’s own property, did not transport or possess the firearm in the vessel or in a motor vehicle in a manner prohibited by this section or division (B) or © of section 2923.16 of the Revised Code while the vessel was being operated on a waterway that was not on the actor’s own property or while the motor vehicle was being operated on a street, highway, or other public or private property used by the public for vehicular traffic.

(2) No person who is charged with a violation of division © or (D) of this section shall be required to obtain a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code as a condition for the dismissal of the charge.

(F) Divisions (B), ©, and (D) of this section do not apply to the possession or discharge of a United States coast guard approved signaling device required to be carried aboard a vessel under section 1547.251 of the Revised Code when the signaling device is possessed or used for the purpose of giving a visual distress signal. No person shall knowingly transport or possess any signaling device of that nature in or on a vessel in a loaded condition at any time other than immediately prior to the discharge of the signaling device for the purpose of giving a visual distress signal.

(G) No person shall operate or permit to be operated any vessel on the waters in this state in violation of this section.

(H)(1) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(a) An officer, agent, or employee of this or any other state or of the United States, or to a law enforcement officer, when authorized to carry or have loaded or accessible firearms in a vessel and acting within the scope of the officer’s, agent’s, or employee’s duties;

(b) Any person who is employed in this state, who is authorized to carry or have loaded or accessible firearms in a vessel, and who is subject to and in compliance with the requirements of section 109.801 of the Revised Code, unless the appointing authority of the person has expressly specified that the exemption provided in division (H)(1)(b) of this section does not apply to the person;

© Any person legally engaged in hunting.

(2) Divisions © and (D) of this section do not apply to a person who transports or possesses a handgun in a vessel and who, at the time of that transportation or possession, is carrying a valid license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun issued to the person under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code or a license to carry a concealed handgun that was issued by another state with which the attorney general has entered into a reciprocity agreement under section 109.69 of the Revised Code, unless the person knowingly is in a place on the vessel described in division (B) of section 2923.126 of the Revised Code.

(I) If a law enforcement officer stops a vessel for a violation of this section or any other law enforcement purpose, if any person on the vessel surrenders a firearm to the officer, either voluntarily or pursuant to a request or demand of the officer, and if the officer does not charge the person with a violation of this section or arrest the person for any offense, the person is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm, and the firearm is not contraband, the officer shall return the firearm to the person at the termination of the stop.

Effective Date: 04-08-2004; 03-14-2007

[jagr]

Check jblossers latest thread. He did a review of a wheel gun he just picked up for >$300 I believe. The deal ends soon.

[SWing'R]

...If you don't have a CHL for transportation in cannot be loaded, magazines and speed loaders included and ...

Ok, maybe silly question, what's a CHL? Back when I had my guns I think the

law was something like the gun and ammo had to be seperated, like ammo in the car,

gun in the trunk. Something like that.

[chevysoldier]

Ok' date=' maybe silly question, what's a CHL? Back when I had my guns I think the

law was something like the gun and ammo had to be seperated, like ammo in the car,

gun in the trunk. Something like that.[/quote']

CHL=concealed handgun license. If you have one, you can transport a loaded handgun. The thing about ammo being separated is a common thing to hear. I have not actually read any law that confirms this. The ORC I copied doesn't say anything of the such so I have no idea. Funny thing is, before I had my permit, I always separated the ammo and firearm as well.

[chevysoldier]

Here is a good place to read up on the laws:

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/Ohio-Gun-Laws

[eggs]

Good luck on your purchase Buying guns are fun. I will add tho the last few guns show at westland a large majority of the dealers did background checks and there were only a couple tables that advertised themselves as private sales = cash and go. if you buy a gun and ammo, just keep it unloaded and the ammo in the trunk

[SWing'R]

Thanks the info guys.

When you buy a gun from a dealer/store, the gun is "registered" to

you right? In other words the serial numbers comes back to you when traced

right. What about buying from shows? Are those guns registered back to you also?? I'm assuming they have to file some paperwork for that right?

[Disclaimer]

You don't "register" your guns in Ohio... you apply for a background check, nothing more.

[chevysoldier]

The only "registration" Ohio has is the paperwork that you fill out at the dealer. They don't send this information to the gov't. It stays there. At gun shows, like eggs said, there might be a dealer there so it would be the same way. Private party sales would be like me selling you a gun, either at a gun show or at my house. I ask if you're 21 or a felon and that's it. No paper work unless I want a bill of sale.

[speedytriple]

Vances has smith j frames with mail in rebate they are 299.99. I just got my first wheel gun they are very easy to conceal. The sale at vances ends on the 31st so hurry if you want there 299 price.

[chevysoldier]

http://www.vanceoutdoors.com/flyer/flyer.pdf

[C-bus]

http://www.vanceoutdoors.com/flyer/flyer.pdf

If nothing else, print the latest Vances flier and take it with you for a point of reference at the gun show. Chances are good that you won't find better prices than Vances at the gun show unless it's a private seller who's about to get hosed by a table dealer.

[Beegreenstrings]

goodluck on the purchase, post pics when you get it.

[SWing'R]

Thanks again for the info guys. I don't expect to be getting one just yet,

we are still discussing it. We may go to the gun show this weekend just so

my wife can look at some.

[chevysoldier]

Think about what you want one for. Home defense, open, concealed carry, plinking, deer hunting, rabbit hunting, etc make a difference on what you should get. Like someone said, print out Vance's ad and take it to the gun show with you.

[scottb]

The indoor range near me has guns for rent. However, appearently the rentable range guns are not cleaned all that often. I had a less then operational 9 mm Springfield XD that I rented. IF the rented guns function, it is one way to try out the fit, and feel before buying. Depending on where you live, might be able to meet up with some members here and see if they will let you try what they have.

I went from not owning a firearm at the end of 2009, now I have quite a few. Guns seems to multiply.

[chevysoldier]

The indoor range near me has guns for rent. However, appearently the rentable range guns are not cleaned all that often. I had a less then operational 9 mm Springfield XD that I rented. IF the rented guns function, it is one way to try out the fit, and feel before buying. Depending on where you live, might be able to meet up with some members here and see if they will let you try what they have.

I went from not owning a firearm at the end of 2009, now I have quite a few. Guns seems to multiply.

Mine don't multiply as nearly as I would like though.

[scottb]

i went a little nuts this year. I promise to add only 3 or 4 more to my collection in 2011. Each firearm serves a purpose, such as home defense, hunting, target shooting, skeet shooting. So depending on what you want to do, you might end up with a few.

[chevysoldier]

The only "registration" Ohio has is the paperwork that you fill out at the dealer. They don't send this information to the gov't. It stays there. At gun shows, like eggs said, there might be a dealer there so it would be the same way. Private party sales would be like me selling you a gun, either at a gun show or at my house. I ask if you're 21 or a felon and that's it. No paper work unless I want a bill of sale.

Oh and I forgot to add that I would also have to ask if you are a resident of the same state for handgun sales. I forgot about this part and another member was kind enough to bring it to my attention.

Edited December 31, 2010 by chevysoldier
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[speedytriple]

My wife found out about my last one I bought after I took the cash out and went to a gun show and already bought it.

[eggs]

Think about what you want one for. Home defense, open, concealed carry, plinking, deer hunting, rabbit hunting, etc make a difference on what you should get. .

+1 it really can make a difference.

[speedytriple]

Or you could take the wife along and buy her own gun for her, and one for yourself?

[SWing'R]

Think about what you want one for. Home defense, open, concealed carry, plinking, deer hunting, rabbit hunting, etc make a difference on what you should get.

Right now, home defense. Later on possible concealed carry. Tell me a little about "open carry". What can and can't you do?

Or you could take the wife along and buy her own gun for her, and one for yourself?

Baby steps. Baby steps

Edited December 31, 2010 by SWing'R

[jblosser]

Open Carry means you can carry a weapon unconcealed, e.g. in a holster on your waist - picture the old time cowboys carrying a six-shooter. People can see the gun.

You can open carry it anywhere you could concealed, so no Gov't agencies, schools, establishments serving liquor, etc.

You could conceivably carry a shotgun/rifle over your shoulder, but you also could conceivably be stopped/charged for causing a panic.

<Probably> won't get hassled open carrying, but Joe and Jane Public might get kinda antsy seeing a gun. Ask Josh, a.k.a. Chevy - he's a proponent of open carry and practices it often.