2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 As some may know irecently bought a utility trailer to haul the v-twins...this trailer did not come with a spare tire or wheel they are $100 for one at TSC. Here is what i found out the traier hub is 5 bolt 4.5" pattern, the spare on my car is 5 bolt 115mm, it will bolt on and has clearance, and will carry the weight. There is a .7mm difference in these hub patterns. I'd like opinion and thoughts on using this spare as a emergency situation only, im talking 50 miles or less if i had to, i would save me a C note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 I believe walmart also sells trailer tires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 I believe walmart also sells trailer tires they only have the 12" wheels, i need a 13", i checked the other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 it will bolt on and has clearance.Are you sure about this? Have you tried it on the trailer and spun the wheel. If it bolts on and spins freely then you are good to go but you need to check the offsets to be sure. If it works I would use it to get home no matter how far it is. Single axle trailers don't seem to get as many flats as the dual axle ones, at least for me anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 The only downfall with the "spare" car tires is they are temporary and some don't last long others are really hard and last forever I would think in a pinch it would get you to where you could get it changed out with no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) Are you sure about this? Have you tried it on the trailer and spun the wheel. If it bolts on and spins freely then you are good to go but you need to check the offsets to be sure. If it works I would use it to get home no matter how far it is. Single axle trailers don't seem to get as many flats as the dual axle ones, at least for me anyways.yes iv tried it...empty...havent tried it with a load yet..thats why i hate to spend $100 on a tire that will dry rot and ill never use it Edited April 19, 2011 by 2talltim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 yes iv tried it...empty...havent tried it with a load yet..that why i hate to spend $100 on a tire that will dry rot and ill never use itI thought the same thing but I did it anyway, I just consider it my "insurance" from screwing up a sweet trip or something as well as saving the hassle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Here's some experience I have had with car tires on trailers...Now, we used much bigger trailers and such so, it may not apply, but the idea is that the sidewall on a car tire will not handle the stress a trailer puts on it.We thought the same thing where we had a car tire on a rim that fit. The side wall blew in no time. I think we got maybe 100 miles before it destroyed itself. I don't think it was that far. We went from Delaware to just east of Zanesville...Anyways, get a proper trailer tire. Offset isn't as important as the load rating... and ply design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) **edit - sorry, I was wrong about HF having 13" tires; they just have 12" in 4 and 5 bolt patterns. $66 for a 13" rim/tire combo on this site though http://www.easternmarine.com/12-and-13-Trailer-Tire-Rim/ Edited April 19, 2011 by redkow97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Offset isn't as important as the load rating...Offset is very important if you expect to use it without trying it first then the tire rubs the trailer frame and you are stuck without a backup plan. While the load rating is important if your offset is wrong you won't even get to test the load rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 $66 for a 13" rim/tire combo on this site though http://www.easternmarine.com/12-and-13-Trailer-Tire-Rim/$24 to ship..still makes it $90..i thought you were on to something there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 My train of thought is that my first trip is in 4wks...and I'm scraping money up now just for the trip...so i might have to gamble with the donut on this trip and pick up a ful size for the next trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 If it fits and does not rub under load my thinking is any spare is better than no spare... use it to get you through until you can buy a proper one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Junkyard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 so i might have to gamble with the donut on this trip Donut? Donut? Never mind my previous posts about driving home with your spare. A spare is not a donut on a tow vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) Donut? Donut? Never mind my previous posts about driving home with your spare. A spare is not a donut on a tow vehicle.i see how you could get confused, quess i never thought about it...tow vehicle is a 07 chevy impala..the spare is rated at 1300lbs(might even be 1800lbs its hard to read) the trailer tires are rated at 1100 lbs...thats why i said maybe 50miles tops in an emergency Edited April 19, 2011 by 2talltim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 i see how you could get confused, quess i never thought about it...tow vehicle is a 07 chevy impala..the spare is rated at 1300lbs(might even be 1800lbs its hard to read) the trailer tires are rated at 1100 lbs...thats why i said maybe 50miles tops in an emergencyis it a skinny donut and not a full size spare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) is it a skinny donut and not a full size spare?'ive seen smaller but yes it a temp spare only 16x5 i think its about 1/2" taller than the trailer tire...and my trailer fully loaded is only 1500 lbs tops...hell those little 8" wheels can handle that.....ill do some more measuring when i get home today Edited April 19, 2011 by 2talltim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 'ive seen smaller but yes it a temp spare only 16x5 i think its about 1/2" taller than the trailer tire...and my trailer fully loaded is only 1500 lbs tops...hell those little 8" wheels can handle thatplease please please check with your bike or auto insurance if they cover the bike while being trailered. I have trust issues with tires due to a couple incidents so naturally this is just way too sketchy for me and I just see a bad ending for your poor bike if something were to go wrong with a skinny on there.Yes I understand its for emergency purpose but I wouldn't trust it for shit. I hope I am very wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 please please please check with your bike or auto insurance if they cover the bike while being trailered. I have trust issues with tires due to a couple incidents so naturally this is just way too sketchy for me and I just see a bad ending for your poor bike if something were to go wrong with a skinny on there.Yes I understand its for emergency purpose but I wouldn't trust it for shit. I hope I am very wrong thoughoh i hear ya...you know im thinking worse case if i have to use it it will be 45 mph top speed with my flashers on, im not just going to stick it on there and zoom down the freeway, HELL NO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 ya know, i read the warnings that say "55 mph top speed" on all my trailer documentation, and I actually worried about it the first couple of times I pulled it - but then I was tired, and wanted to get home from Putnam.70mph it is. Falling asleep at the wheel is more dangerous than having one of the trailer tires come apart at 70mph, IMHO.to date, i haven't observed any problems w/ the trailer tires. I always stop after the first 25 miles or so and make sure the hubs aren't getting hot, and the tires have never chunked or anything crazy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Just an off-hand suggestion...If you're truly cash-strapped, I'd consider getting the 12" trailer wheel/tire combo to use as an emergency spare if it's that much cheaper than a 13er. With a 1" smaller diameter, the true heigth difference from axle centerline to the road is only 1/2", which shouldn't make a huge difference as long as it's being used as a temporary spare. It'll spin a bit faster than the bigger wheel, but it doesn't make a difference since it's not running thru a differential. Check out the load specs and make sure the bolt pattern and offset are OK and yer good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 ya know, i read the warnings that say "55 mph top speed" on all my trailer documentation, and I actually worried about it the first couple of times I pulled it - but then I was tired, and wanted to get home from Putnam.70mph it is. Falling asleep at the wheel is more dangerous than having one of the trailer tires come apart at 70mph, IMHO.to date, i haven't observed any problems w/ the trailer tires. I always stop after the first 25 miles or so and make sure the hubs aren't getting hot, and the tires have never chunked or anything crazy like that.what size tires are those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Offset is very important if you expect to use it without trying it first then the tire rubs the trailer frame and you are stuck without a backup plan. While the load rating is important if your offset is wrong you won't even get to test the load rating.You are correct in that regard. I was saying it based on most trailer rims are generic in terms of bolt pattern and may have slightly different offsets. Most are within "spec" if you will and will not cause issue. I was referring to those steel wheels you typically see on all trailers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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