wht_scorpion Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Fail Edited June 4, 2011 by wht_scorpion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 What is this bill #5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Is this the bill to limit collective bargianing for gov't employees?If so, I REALLY hope it passes. It's long overdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 annnnd go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolWhip Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 can we change this to a ride to get our governor to sign HB45 into law? I think it would be much more beneficial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) The bill permits union negotiations for wages, hours and working conditions, but bans collective bargaining for benefits. It also eliminates binding arbitration and prohibits public employees from going on strike.Basically, Medical costs are going up for everyone. Ohio gov't workers have been mostly shielded from this under collective bargaining...at the expense of Ohio (with a large budget deficit) and Ohio taxpayers.So, SB5 proposes that gov't workers pay the same increases in health care costs as the rest of Ohioians. This makes perfect sense to me.Lots of fear mongering on the Anti-SB5 side Edited June 2, 2011 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 So.... can I count on you to be there' date=' Tpoppa? [/quote']Dressed as Boss Hoss, no less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Here we a have some good examples of fear mongering:...unfair law that is an attack on employee rights and worker safety. ...show their support for this historic fight against the bill that will destroy working and middle class communities in Ohio.Scary. Please explain how this unfair law attacks worker safety. And how it will destroy working and middle class communties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Interested to see who shows up for this.There are a lot of blue-collar riders who would take a bullet for the union (as long as they weren't on break), and probably almost as many rich posers who ride 200 miles a year, but like these sort of events to they can feel like "a real biker." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Damn you and....and...and your damn logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 unions have always pissed me off, and I really do (generally) support the police, but there was some Captain on the radio bitching to Triv on 1100 a few months ago about how 'this will force them to lay off officers based on merit instead of seniority.'Ummmm... okaaaay... Where's the fucking problem? You mean the good cops will get to keep their jobs, and the bad ones won't be protected just because they've got a lot of time in? Sounds GREAT to me!Now I get it; I don't want Detective Seniority laid off and Cadet Incompetent to keep his job just because the former makes $68k and the latter makes a much more budget-friendly $40k, but unions have been too greedy for too long. They've overstepped useful and reasonable negotiations, and it's about time the government did something to keep them in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 P.S. - any mods want to move this into the Politics forum where it belongs? "Rides and Events." Ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Interested to see who shows up for this.There are a lot of blue-collar riders who would take a bullet for the union (as long as they weren't on break), and probably almost as many rich posers who ride 200 miles a year, but like these sort of events to they can feel like "a real biker."This made me giggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I support any bill that lets me breach contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 ^ it's only funny because it's true. The unions demand demand demand, then exploit exploit exploit.The only time they do SHIT is when they want something. My buddy supervises union workers at what used to be LTV Steel. Early in his tenure there, the union rep came in and implied that productivity might slip if they didn't get what they wanted.His (veteran) coworker cleared things up for him. "Russ, you just got threatened with a slow down." His response: "THEY CAN WORK SLOWER!?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake1221 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I don't think ill be attending this "ride" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I was I was exploited by a hot teacher when I was about 13 or 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 There's already some footage:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzivCJ9pzU&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhaag Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I was I was exploited by a hot teacher when I was about 13 or 14.did you report him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Justin said he was hot...I don't think he wanted to get him in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 When's the ride for those of us that support the bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhaag Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Justin said he was hot...I don't think he wanted to get him in trouble.good point.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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