Oneshot Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Just wondering if anyone uses "Cam2" fuel for daily riding...whether it be straight fuel or mixture and what are the pros/cons with long term use??? I tried it 50/50 today...that is 50% 93 octane and 50% Cam2. Saw amazing throttle response and crazy power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 You saw amazing throttle response and crazy power because your brain said you should. Fuel like that on a stock bike will make no noticeable difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Maybe if you had like 14:1 compression ratio and crazy advanced ignition you would need that stuff to keep detonation under control, otherwise waste of loot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 here's a few things about using race fuel if you don't tune your bike to use it.1. waste of money2. if it's leaded (which I believe cam 2 is..it's not a bad thing however...) your stock converter is slowly clogging every second it's running3. octane is not a measurement of the fuel's energy level. it's just a measurement of it's resistance to pre ignition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfvb1225 Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I've used it in my four stroke four Wheeler before. Slight increase in power and a different exhaust smell. That's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Why exactly do you need more power from your 1000RR on your daily drive?I usually add 62% 93 Octane/17% Shredded Owner's Manual/18% Troll Jizz. Yesterday on the way to work, I got 87 mpg. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I usually add 62% 93 Octane/17% Shredded Owner's Manual/18% Troll Jizz. Yesterday on the way to work, I got 87 mpg.What is the last 3%? Magic? Unobtainium? The tears of starving children? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 What is the last 3%? Magic? Unobtainium? The tears of starving children?+rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TSB67 Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Just wondering if anyone uses "Cam2" fuel for daily riding...whether it be straight fuel or mixture and what are the pros/cons with long term use??? I tried it 50/50 today...that is 50% 93 octane and 50% Cam2. Saw amazing throttle response and crazy power.The difference is probably all in your head (brain and/or nose), unless you normally run 87 and the bike dials out timing with a knock sensor. There also may be a small gain due to lack of alcohol content - I gave up trying to figure out how much alcohol is in pump gas these days.Since the fuel is leaded, long term use can damage catalytic convertors and oxygen sensors, if so equipped.I run CAM2 in my 125cc two-stroke dirtbike for three reasons, none of them really good:1) I only burn a gallon or two each ride2) It seems to be more consistent than pump gas with respect to jetting3) It seems to burn cleaner and reduce carbon deposits in the motorI ran CAM2 in my 100cc two-stroke race kart for the above reasons plus the fact that any alcohol content would fail fuel testing for oxygenation.Neither of the above motors actually required 110 octane.Basically you're just paying a premium for consistent, quality pure fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneshot Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Well I appreciate all the responses. And to paraphrase my thoughts in response....no I don't "need" any more power from a Cbr 1000. I was simply trying a different fuel to see if it really did change my power as some friends had stated it would. And I did consult a friend who had raced these bikes professionally to make sure I wouldn't harm the engine. He said cam2 could plug things up if ran straight but mixed 50/50 I would notice better throttle response. Whether anyone agrees or not my Cbr 1000 had better throttle response And the engine ran smoother. It's my bike and I ride it the same way Everytime im on it...therefore I should know. No its no worth the price difference just for cruising sake, but if I were to do track days I definately would have it in the tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 If it can plug things up straight what makes you think it won't plug things up diluted? 50-50 it will just take twice as long to ruin your emitions equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneshot Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 If it can plug things up straight what makes you think it won't plug things up diluted? 50-50 it will just take twice as long to ruin your emitions equipment.Hence..exactly why I simply run one cycle of fuel through the tank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wht_scorpion Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I used it in a 89 ex500 in the 90s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienpi Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I always use it in my lawnmower! It cuts the grass better, and I don't have to treat my lawn for weeds anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungames43232 Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Always use the lowest octane you can without pinging. That said my old Busa loved the CAM2 leaded gas, but she had high compression pistons, decked head, thin gasket, Brock's exhaust and a sip of funny gas. I have a stage 2 turbo Busa now and run 93. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 I can think of one way that high octane fuel will work better in a low octane engine.If the combustion chambers have so much carbon built up that the compression is higher than it should be and is trying to pre-detonate for multiple reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Like I said, unless your running crazy compression or advance, pimp gas its fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Like I said, unless your running crazy compression or advance, pimp gas its fine.I don't think you need to run pimp juice either, just regular ol' 87 octane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 I don't think you need to run pimp juice either, just regular ol' 87 octane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 I think you are doing what most folks do when they slap "race gas" into their bikes... One, the fuel is not doing anything for your bike. A bit of power increase, but unless you have Dyno Jet butt sensors, you really cannot tell. The ol' brain is telling you that there is more power and better throttle response when there is such small % of increase that there's no way.It's like saying you picked up a few HP from the air filter you put in. You cannot feel single digit HP.Now, one thing to consider is that you don't have a high compression machine. You are essentially wasting money. Higher octane as Serpent mentioned isn't power, but pre ignition resistance. On a twin, yes. In-Line? No...So, save that cash, buy only 91-93 at a GOOOOOD fuel station and you'll have the same results. Best thing to do is try and find a station with low Ethanol content in the fuel. That's better than anything...You can try some U4.4 and even though it is bad for the Cat, it will show you a difference in good fuel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBWalker Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 which ever octane fuel gives your bike the best mpg, is the best fuel for your bike. no b.s.. i did a 1100 mile 87 vs 93 mpg compar-0 and averaged 2.9 more mpg with the 93. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacchus Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 One thing about occasionally running race gas, is the smell. Gotta love the smell. Adn it sticks around, long after the race gas is gone.and talk to anybody who has a plastic tanked Duc about ethanol content....make sure you don't have any plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'm gonna 50/50 cam2 and Redbull. Between the octane and wings my bike should fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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