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So the girlfriend and I are taking a day trip up to Cleveland on Tuesday so she can drop off a saddle to a fitter or some horsey thing like that. I was wondering if there was anything to do up there that's worth checking out and doesn't cost a fortune and is specific to the Cleveland area (i.e. not the movies or something I can do anywhere)? Thanks

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We got a Casino now, if your into that.

The Westside Market is kind of interesting if you are looking for unusual foods. It is right across from Great Lakes Brewing. Also in the neighborhood is Garden Market Brewing and Bier Markt for beer lovers.

Next to the R&R hall is a WW2 sub (USS Cod) and the Science Center.

Out in University Circle is a pretty good Art Museum and Natural History Museum.

Craig

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"I've never been there, they tell me it's nice."

Considering some of the greatest bands and artists are yet to be inducted, and many totally worthless and talent-less others have been, I am never going to step foot in there. I do hear it is nice, but pretty doesn't cut it for me. If you end up going, let me know what you think about it.:cool:

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Considering some of the greatest bands and artists are yet to be inducted, and many totally worthless and talent-less others have been, I am never going to step foot in there. I do hear it is nice, but pretty doesn't cut it for me. If you end up going, let me know what you think about it.:cool:

I'm just curious....Who are the greatest bands and artists that have yet to be inducted and who are the talent-less ones that are in there.....or are you just blowing smoke up our asses? Most comments like yours are usually prefaced with "why isn't so and so in there" Mostly disgruntled fans of certain bands or individuals that aren't in there yet.

imho

FYI

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Criteria

Figuring out what it takes to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame seems like an impossible task when looking at the diversity of the artists who are already enshrined. What do they all have in common? What criteria did the Rock Hall Nominating Committee apply when putting together the ballots? There's no easy answer, especially when it comes to something as emotionally charged as music and when the biases of those in charge come into play.

Here are a few passages about the criteria from the Rock Hall's own website:

Leaders in the music industry joined together in 1983 to establish the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. One of the Foundation’s many functions is to recognize the contributions of those who have had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll by inducting them into the Hall of Fame.Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

Terry Stewart, the President of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and Museum (and Nominating Committee member), expands upon that criteria in the letter he sends to fans who seek induction of their favorite artist [Update: Read Stewart's latest letter here.]

Nomination and induction into the Hall of Fame is not about popularity, records sales, which label the group is on, or anything other than the process below. The love for, the evaluation of, and the impact of any artist are subjective questions to be answered by the nominators and the voters. Unlike baseball, football, basketball or hockey, statistics are not relevant. Please read below:The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. Individuals can be inducted in four categories: Performer, Early Influence, Non-Performer and Side-Men. The only formal criteria for the performance category is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate standards for evaluation.

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there's a 95% chance she's taking her saddled to "clipity clop," which I didn't know was a big deal until someone from out of state asked me if I knew where it was...

I do, because it's on my way to my grandmother's house, or on the way to the Macedonia Cinemark that I frequented before they built the better one in Valley View.

Anyway, you're going to be on the outskirts of Brecksville to drop off that saddle. There are some decent riding roads around that area if you're bringing the bike up, but I'm thinking that's unlikely.

Search "scene magazine 25 restaurants Cleveland can't live without," and you will find a bunch of places that are totally worth eating at. My wife is trying to make it to all 25. You can get "reviews" of each here: http://sarafindingthetime.wordpress.com/category/eats/

Otherwise, the rock hall is probably the best thing to do during the day. If you're staying into the evening, Progressive Field is a good place to catch a game, and the Cleveland theatre scene is actually really huge. I want to say we're bigger than Chicago. Anyway, the Cleveland Playhouse has some great shows, and if you can do a comedy club after dinner, I would check out the place on E. 4th.

The Great Lakes Brewing Company is not only a great place to eat and drink (on the Scene 25 list), but it's also a really nice area to just spend some time. Right by the Westside Market, and a bunch of other "just outside down town" stuff.

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Melt is good, a little overrated IMO... usually when I venture into cleve it's for a live comedy show at hilarities, very nice upscale comedy club...pretty nice restaurant, too (the restaurant is called pickwick and frolic, a little gay sounding but pretty nice)

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I rode up and went through the Rock Museum one weekend. It's pretty interesting, but not sure if I'd bother going again.

There's been a big controversy about who they put in the museum. Supposedly some of the decision making is strange. They sometimes ignore the voting and do whatever they want for inductees.

edit: This year Axl Rose declined induction, and got inducted anyway. That thing with Slash, I guess. In 2006 John Lydon of Sex-Pistols said no. There's been others.

John Lydon said:

“Next to the SEX-PISTOLS rock and roll and that hall of fame is a piss stain. Your museum. Urine in wine. Were not coming. Were not your monkey and so what? Fame at $25,000 if we paid for a table, or $15000 to squeak up in the gallery, goes to a non-profit organisation selling us a load of old famous. Congradulations. If you voted for us, hope you noted your reasons. Your anonymous as judges, but your still music industry people. Were not coming. Your not paying attention. Outside the shit-stem is a real SEX PISTOL”

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Melt is good, a little overrated IMO...

Agreed, but the one in Independence is the largest, and is pretty close to that saddle shop. Largest = shortest wait. The other locations will both say "about an hour" wait, and then watch you sit for 2 hours...

I love Melt for the taste, but I inevitably feel like ass an hour after eating it.

The Hot Wed Buffalo chicken sandwich, or the Greek whatever it's called are my favorites there.

It's all good though, assuming you don't mind having a 4 lbs. crater in your stomach thereafter.

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Agreed, but the one in Independence is the largest, and is pretty close to that saddle shop. Largest = shortest wait. The other locations will both say "about an hour" wait, and then watch you sit for 2 hours...

I love Melt for the taste, but I inevitably feel like ass an hour after eating it.

The Hot Wed Buffalo chicken sandwich, or the Greek whatever it's called are my favorites there.

It's all good though, assuming you don't mind having a 4 lbs. crater in your stomach thereafter.

I did the one in Cleveland Hts. O N C E ! Sandwich was OK, but NOT worth the wait..... seriously, Why would anyone wait 1 to 2 hours to eat a "cheese sandwich" You have to have your head examined if you go there knowing that you are going to have to wait 1 to 2 hours to be seated.....let alone get your food. It is just F'ing crazy.

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I'm just curious....Who are the greatest bands and artists that have yet to be inducted and who are the talent-less ones that are in there.....or are you just blowing smoke up our asses? Most comments like yours are usually prefaced with "why isn't so and so in there" Mostly disgruntled fans of certain bands or individuals that aren't in there yet.

imho

FYI

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Criteria

Figuring out what it takes to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame seems like an impossible task when looking at the diversity of the artists who are already enshrined. What do they all have in common? What criteria did the Rock Hall Nominating Committee apply when putting together the ballots? There's no easy answer, especially when it comes to something as emotionally charged as music and when the biases of those in charge come into play.

Here are a few passages about the criteria from the Rock Hall's own website:

Leaders in the music industry joined together in 1983 to establish the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. One of the Foundation’s many functions is to recognize the contributions of those who have had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll by inducting them into the Hall of Fame.Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

Terry Stewart, the President of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and Museum (and Nominating Committee member), expands upon that criteria in the letter he sends to fans who seek induction of their favorite artist [Update: Read Stewart's latest letter here.]

Nomination and induction into the Hall of Fame is not about popularity, records sales, which label the group is on, or anything other than the process below. The love for, the evaluation of, and the impact of any artist are subjective questions to be answered by the nominators and the voters. Unlike baseball, football, basketball or hockey, statistics are not relevant. Please read below:The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. Individuals can be inducted in four categories: Performer, Early Influence, Non-Performer and Side-Men. The only formal criteria for the performance category is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate standards for evaluation.

First off....if you are gonna name a hall of fame the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame", it should consist almost entirely of Rock and Roll bands "and the likes" not pop music stars and jokes like Neil Diamond, Madonna, Abba and countless others whom I have never even heard of. Kiss and Rush are not even in there yet....are you kidding me!

Some other very notable snubs.......Journey isn’t in the hall. Neither is Jethro Tull, Boston, Bon Jovi, the Cars, ELO, the Steve Miller Band or Stevie Ray Vaughn. Lets add Kansas, and Styx, and Ted Nugent, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Def Leppard, Motley Crue, and Motorhead — not one has been elected to the hall. Get the picture? FUCK THAT PLACE!

I vote for the great brewery's there "some great places to eat too", and also agree on hitting an Indians game if they are in town.:banana:

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I did the one in Cleveland Hts. O N C E ! Sandwich was OK, but NOT worth the wait..... seriously, Why would anyone wait 1 to 2 hours to eat a "cheese sandwich" You have to have your head examined if you go there knowing that you are going to have to wait 1 to 2 hours to be seated.....let alone get your food. It is just F'ing crazy.

when i went with my girl, we got seated right away....no wait

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John Lydon said:

“Next to the SEX-PISTOLS rock and roll and that hall of fame is a piss stain. Your museum. Urine in wine. Were not coming. Were not your monkey and so what? Fame at $25,000 if we paid for a table, or $15000 to squeak up in the gallery, goes to a non-profit organisation selling us a load of old famous. Congradulations. If you voted for us, hope you noted your reasons. Your anonymous as judges, but your still music industry people. Were not coming. Your not paying attention. Outside the shit-stem is a real SEX PISTOL”

:lol: Jonny Rotten is awesome!

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