YSR_Racer_99 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Gun restrictions, spending, divided country, etc. What happens that makes things start to get ugly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Sounds like and ORDN meet and great time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 If anything...gun restrictions could potentially lead to civil unrest. But most Americans are too complacent and too detached from our own history to understand the consequenses of letting the very freedoms slip away that early Americans were willing to die for.Everyone should believe this:"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." ― Abraham Lincoln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 I think we should just split into 2 countries. Send all the libtard obama lovers to one side and call it New Obamerica and keep the rest as the United States of America for the right wing nut jobs and other various people who enjoy the Constitution and freedoms we've all enjoyed for decades 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingset Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 I used to think it was a nutty narrative - but most of what's happening is very much in line with "Unintended Consequences". That's a scary thing, by the way.It won't be some orderly business if things keep going and we melt down. It's going to look a hell of a lot more like Sarajevo than Gettysburg.I am actually not a doom & gloomer but it's undeniable the division and tension building up between the sides, the Federal and states, etc. If you've ever read about the political climate of the 1850's, we're dangerously similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 i think it would take a major exogenous shock to the system, be it economic, political, natural disaster, etc.politically it would take a really severe change to laws (people will forever be complacent with frittering away our rights slowly), economically it would involve hyperinflation (a real concept, research it), or basically a disaster that incapacitates 1/3rd of the nation, geographically.just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drc32-0 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 What is the tipping point?When they take away sports on t.v and beer.Until then you can do anything you want to Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 What is the tipping point?When they take away sports on t.v and beer.Until then you can do anything you want to Americans.basically. "if you cant live for something, you'll die for nothing", is not a slogan anyone really lives by anymore. the true patriots and pioneers died long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaposer Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 What is the tipping point?When they take away sports on t.v and beer.Until then you can do anything you want to Americans.Don't forget American Idol and Survivor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 the true patriots and pioneers died long ago.Early Americans were rough, tough risk takers. They had to be to leave their established country and try to carve out a life in an untamed land all in search of Freedom from over-controlling federal governments (you know like one we have today.) That was the famed American Spirit that made us a super power and the world leader for damn near anything that mattered.Today, we are a bunch of seat-belt-wearing-sissies & the American Spirit is a commercial for Chevy trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) Don't forget American Idol and Survivor.Those are still on the air? how about honey boo boo? Reality shows sheesh..........Back to the topic::tinfoil: Edited January 24, 2013 by crb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Early Americans were rough, tough risk takers. They had to be to leave their established country and try to carve out a life in an untamed land all in search of Freedom from over-controlling federal governments (you know like one we have today.) That was the famed American Spirit that made us a super power and the world leader for damn near anything that mattered.Today, we are a bunch of seat-belt-wearing-sissies & the American Spirit is a commercial for Chevy trucks.The closest thing we have to that now is Mexicans. Can we hire them to revolt for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 The closest thing we have to that now is Mexicans. Can we hire them to revolt for us?That idea might just catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingset Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 What everyone is forgetting is that it won't take much of a hiccup in the government, markets or social makeup to seriously fuck up food/fuel/electricity...just a touch of panic.Now, think about the large metros with a million dependent people living on top of each other. Frustration, anger, and basic needs in short supply will cause some serious violence FAST, and that can spread and be very infectious.Do I think it's around the corner? No, but we're laying the groundwork for that really really well right now.You guys are right that 99% of Americans are fat lazy and contented. Now, shut off the lights, empty the store shelves, and stop the gas deliveries and watch what happens.Things can go south very very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 The closest thing we have to that now is Mexicans. Can we hire them to revolt for us?Wait, you mean something like an offer of citizenship for serving in armed forces? Of course, that's worked well for many years. Lots of countries do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_some_dude Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Gun restrictions, spending, divided country, etc. What happens that makes things start to get ugly?I'm going to say when government comes into our homes and starts taking weapons. That is probably when it is going to get ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 We have enough civility. It's when the entitlements dry up..... That's when we'll see issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 If you don't think things will get violent, just look at retail stores on Black Friday. Imagine if it was for food and water. That's what scares me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 It has already started, we dont notice it because there are small changes. Think of how things were when our parents or grandparents were growing up. Then compare the laws now to then. There are more laws, taxes, and cameras are every where! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 If you don't think things will get violent, just look at retail stores on Black Friday. Imagine if it was for food and water. That's what scares me.Time to start buying high capacity loaves of bread to sell for $45 on armslist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 If we get to the tipping point - economic, disaster, etc. - I might have to move up my relocation to the PNW or just head home to Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Texas looks better and better everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsnake Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/wasdin/wasdin10.htmlWe are here. The Roman Empire fell, we shall as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 It has already started, we dont notice it because there are small changes. Think of how things were when our parents or grandparents were growing up. Then compare the laws now to then. There are more laws, taxes, and cameras are every where!I think we are doing pretty well personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Thats only income, what about everything else that is taxed? We are now taxed in fast food drive thru, tax on gas, cigs, alcohol, bread, etc. All have went up, NYC is restricted on cola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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