magley64 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Not a lot of black birds around - are you a Thompson drag raceway guy? I think I already know you. That's like 12 min. From my house. I spent a lot of Wednesday Nights there in my years!Never took her out to Thompson, considered it a few times, but didn't know what i needed to pass tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_T Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Never took her out to Thompson, considered it a few times, but didn't know what i needed to pass tech.Helmet , coat , gloves , closed toe shoe . And $10.00.! Oh and you must cave a chain guard. Crazy that you must have a chain guard but zero skill is required! Black birds suffer their a little since the linked brakes don't allow for a good burn . They spray compound but dry hops are not enough there. Don't be surprised if you spin. Some guys dig it since they don't wheelie as much . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) I think I'll just leave this here. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/is-harley-davidson-the-worst-motorcycle-money-can.aspx Edited February 17, 2014 by Tonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) I think I'll just leave this here. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/is-harley-davidson-the-worst-motorcycle-money-can.aspx Looks like I might need another Yamaha in the garage, and why isn't uber reliable Suzuki on that list? BMW is only first because of the rear drive failures they had for a few years, and possibly some CANBUS issues. Considering their top selling model is the GS and it can be put into several of those categories, I have to wonder how they ultimately broke down the models for them? I am betting that the current crop of BMW's will be extremely reliable for the next few years, it will be interesting to see more data at that point for another comparison. Harley's in stock form are very reliable, but so many just love to dick around with the exhaust and fuel management, which done to a non high performance engine makes no sense to me. Well I guess the point is to make more noise, so I reckon that makes sense. Edited February 18, 2014 by Pokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think I'll just leave this here. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/is-harley-davidson-the-worst-motorcycle-money-can.aspxDamn! Someone beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Shouldn't there be cat pictures after 11 pages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Damn Harley riders... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Ty Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 H-D has the highest resale value and trade in value! Keep this in mind. Nomore oil leaks, though we still get the 1980's jokes about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 H-D has the highest resale value and trade in value! Keep this in mind. Nomore oil leaks, though we still get the 1980's jokes about it! I hear this a lot, but I don't agree that higher resale adds to the value when the purchase price is also higher to begin with. Perhaps HD's do in fact depreciate at a slower rate than their Japanese counterparts, but especially when you're financing one for longer, you're eating into that alleged additional value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 HD resale is still better than average, but it isn't what is was 10 or even 5 years ago. You can easily find used big twins under 10k and Sportsters under 5k. You can thank a flooded market and aging HD riders for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Resale doesn't mean much to anyone, but HD riders. I couldnt care less what my bike is worth, I plan to ride it til it falls apart. Stereotypically, HD owners ride to and from the bar, only putting 300-500 miles a year before moving to the next shiny pile of chrome. I don't mind the bikes, they are decent enough and though it's taken 60 years, they finally have a reliable powerplant. Sent while riding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Bud, the HD jokes aren't limited to oil leaks. I'd say the bike is honestly the least comical part about the whole damn HD lifestyle.On this comical scale, where would you rank adult men playing dress-up? edit for visual aid Edited February 24, 2014 by Tpoppa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 resale value is a negative in my book, I've never bought a new bike (or a new car), so the quicker it depreciates, the quicker it's cheap, and then I get a newer bike, letting other people eat the depreciation... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxHooligan Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I can count to potatoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxHooligan Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Jeffy doesn't need to know how to spell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 . Stereotypically, HD owners ride to and from the bar, only putting 300-500 miles a year before moving to the next shiny pile of chrome.I do not know where you get your information from but I put 585 miles a week on my bike during the summer just back and forth to work I also ride with about 30 other HD riders from the American Legion in Ravenna And we have a pool every year the rider with the most miles at the end of the summer takes the prize the lowest miles for the group was a little over 3500 I ended up with over 9000 and still did not win. And yes we do stop at a lot of bars but we do know how to have a lot of fun. As far as safety goes we had 0 accidents last year on every one of our rides can this group say the same. On resale values I currently have a 2012 Softail Classic that is paid for I am looking at up grading to a new bike a 2014 Street glide Special for a difference of about $4500 counting upgrades Exhaust intake and supper tuner so the way I look at it I’m only paying $4500 of a brand new $22.000 bike. I like all the lame attempts at flaming HD and their riders thanks I find it funny but if you guys really want to learn how to do it right go to some of the big HD forums and do a search on something like power rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 don't singular a plural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 The day I can find a less than 5 year old, less than 10k mile Street Glide in pristine condition for less than $9000 is the day an HD will be in my stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) I find it funny but if you guys really want to learn how to do it right go to some of the big HD forums and do a search on something like power rangers The difference of course is that the "power rangers" suit is a functional piece of safety equipment... please tell me how the leather vest and tassels have function... Edited February 24, 2014 by magley64 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I do not know where you get your information from I believe he said "the stereotypical HD rider." the humor in any stereotype comes from the inherent absurdity of believing it actually applies to ALL members of a given group. If it hasn't been obvious from my posts in this thread, I vacillate on Harleys. I have no plans or desire to own one, and I think they are mechanically inferior in some ways to their competition, but at the same time, I applaud their ability to market and build brand loyalty. Enthusiasm for low-powered and out-dated two-wheeled technology is still enthusiasm for two-wheels. That (generally) benefits all of us, and is something to embrace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 The difference of course is that the "power rangers" suit is a functional piece of safety equipment... please tell me how the leather vest and tassels have function... I wonder if Barnacle Bill will make me an actually power-ranger leather suit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Resale doesn't mean much to anyone, but HD riders. I couldnt care less what my bike is worth, I plan to ride it til it falls apart. Stereotypically, HD owners ride to and from the bar, only putting 300-500 miles a year before moving to the next shiny pile of chrome.Sent while ridingI hear this, but any time I'm on the road (nearly 40,000 miles of work-driving last year) and the sun isn't warming vaginas, all I see are HD Baggers, GoldWings, and Beemers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Heavy-duty, rather than quoting your whole post I will just respond....you even quoted the most important word of my entire post...stereotypically... So you and your 30 hell raisin, beer drinkin, road ragin buddies ride a lot of miles. Your group is the minority. Sent while riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I hear this, but any time I'm on the road (nearly 40,000 miles of work-driving last year) and the sun isn't warming vaginas, all I see are HD Baggers, GoldWings, and Beemers. All I see on the road around here when temps drop below 60 is a blackbird and a KLR... My bike, and my buddy Wayde... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 The difference of course is that the "power rangers" suit is a functional piece of safety equipment... please tell me how the leather vest and tassels have function... NO the big difference is the power rangers know they are going to crash and the cruiser groups do everything they can not to I did a search of crashes by bike category here is what I came up with. Insurance Stats Cruise.5.7 deaths per 10,000 registered motorcycles Touring.6.5 deaths per 10,000 registered motorcycles Sport.33.2 deaths per 10,000 registered motorcycles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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