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Did you just call out an instructor, telling him he's wrong about how track day instruction works??

Let me Make O.R. Great Again

When it needs to be done and done right, you might as well do it yourself...

Are you saying Novice is for Novices until you show you are no longer a Novice and it takes a few runs to determine that for sure? That seems to make sense to me.

5 pages and still no good candidates....

Sorry whitey you are out.

And on a side note, this finch is freaking me out. He's chilling outside my office window, tapping on the glass like he wants in.

There is not a single person proposing to tax the shit out of low income people. Just make it the same percentage across the board. Remove the federal corporation tax and let the states deal with corporate taxation and keep it local. Then states and local governments can compete to draw business and manufacturing. people have a misconception that hourly rates are the only reason companies move overseas. If you remove the tax burden you can actually pay people well and compete with low wage/quality countries. Magically you do not need all the extra tax money to fund the welfare state because they have decent paying jobs. We have been robbing the rich to pay the lazy for so long that nobody even understands how we got here or how to go back.

Selling my 2011 Z1K, I am the original owner and put 21,000 pleasurable miles on this beast. Still has many more miles in her. The motorcycle has been down...at around 14,000 miles, but I put it back together - mostly cosmetic damage, but I did replace the gas tank, bars, and headlight along with some fairings. Obviously I have put 7000+ miles on it since - the bike is straight, will make a great deal for someone. Many of the OR Board members can vouch for the capability of this motorcycle. I have ridden with many of you, Pauly has worked on it (and rode it), and other have ridden it. Please PM me for details if truly interested...I have put it on OR before anywhere else to give somebody a good deal. Thanks for looking Dave G.

Bullshit. I know you're newer around here so you don't realize that a bikeless mod named Brian is an OR must plus I just needed an excuse to use that photoshop. My buddies girlfriend made it for my Browns Home Opener Tailgating event

Look, I don't care what you are. Just pick one and be that.

Two words: Affirmative action.

Ive thought about it. Im in. this forum needs a special needs mod anyway to maintain EOE status so here I am. You can just call me Quota

Look, a lot of you dont stand a chance. My suggestion is that you go sign up for my latest ban contest cuz that is as close as you are going to get.

Both candidates should be thrown in the river and we should start over. Hillary cracks me up...rich people should pay their "fair share". Huh. What about the 45% of people who pay zero taxes (most of whom suckle a the teet of those that do so they take but don't give). Are they paying their fair share? Socialism here we come.

Do they have a Starbucks in Marietta?

I'm almost ready to buy a fookin' used pool table just so I quit hearing about it.

OR is like a 2nd wife after all

A honest no harm intended heads up. I have NEVER seen Casper, who owns this joint, step in and speak up like that. You should take that into account.

Now that's just mean. Funny as by as hell though

And there you go, proof that a blind retarded squirrel with his head up his ass will find a nut every now and then. Although it might only be his own nuts.

Every time that I receive a notice for a new posting in this thread, the same thoughts always enter my mind: The debate on paying their fair share takes attention from the fact the the federal government has grown significantly faster than the rate of inflation. The government will never have enough money. They will continue to spend ever increasing amounts with impunity. (See every socialist nation in the history if the world). The national debt has nearly doubled under the current administration, and the costs to service the debt will increase significantly in the future. (Not happy with republicans on this issue either). The government cannot create wealth without taking from somebody else first. Rant over.

Hey now. Don't you bring shame to that term. It's a term of endearment

The only shame i have is that i can't be a complete dick about it all representing organizations and all

Yea, he went full on Mach Retard. Shame that username is taken.

They are fun! One of these days I'll get off my ass and file for a proper SBR stamp for it. Right side safety can be a PITA...it's just in the way. There are several solutions available for it...I ordered a flush right side selector and it is much better.

@Lawrence1 I had to respond to your post, altho I know it's a loser's game to debate shit like this on the internet...but hey, it's icky out and I'm not riding today, so... Almost all of the "rich people ploys" you've listed above are available to average folks as well, and may even benefit them to a larger percentage basis since there are income caps that phase out some of the more well-known tax dodges like IRA/401-K contributions. I'm old and have been retired for 10 years, but I worked for 37 years and used most of the above tools to get where I am today. Now, lest you lump me in with the 1%--which maybe I am based on total net worth--I worked at an average hourly wage my entire career. Started out making $88/week--that's gross, not take home--in 1969 and was making about $60K gross when I retired in 2006. A decent salary, no doubt, but nowhere near the stuff of an investment banker. I started putting money into the stock market in 1971 and have contributed to a retirement account ever since, expanding to both a traditional and a Roth IRA when the opportunity was given by the IRS. I've bought and sold 5 houses over the years, making money on each one and reinvesting the value in the next one. With the exception of incorporating or moving money off-shore, I've done something of the kind in nearly everyone of your numbered list. 1) Doesn't matter whether you sell common or preferred stock, you pay taxes--either ST or LT capital gain--on the difference between cost basis and market value at the time of sale. I happen to live on the dividends from my stock investments and pay both federal and state tax on the amount yearly. 2) Didn't do this, although I have vacationed in the Bahamas once or twice... 3) Never got stock options either, but you can damn well be sure I would have taken advantage of them if offered. 4) The few obscenely rich folks who may take advantage of this unusual and obscure ploy typically get nailed to the wall sooner or later. We're talking Securities and Exchange Commission stuff here. 5) Everyone who has ever sold a house and rolled the gains into their next abode have used this dodge. The gain is eventually taxed when the appreciated property is sold, with the exception of a primary residence. 6) Anyone can do this. Use the equity in your house to purchase stocks and use the dividends to pay the second mortgage. This is actually pretty damn hard to do if you think about it, and risky as hell, but more power to you if you want to walk that line. 7) Ordinary folks do this everyday. Become a landlord and buy rental property. It's a lot of work and headache, but pretty damn profitable over the long haul. 8) I did the exact same thing every year when I redirected a percentage of my earnings to a 401-K or IRA and paid zero tax on the contribution amount. 9) I gift my kids money every year. They're in their 30s and 40s and have their own kids and mortgages and are busting their asses to make it. The money is tax-free to them BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY PAID TAX ON IT. Not sure how this is dodge. When I donate to a charity, I do gift the highly appreciated stock and get a write-off for the full market amount. I bought the stock decades ago and paid far less per share, but money was "more valuable" then. You know, inflation and all that. See how that works? 10) This is available to everyone. You don't have to be rich to get this deduction. I had a crappy old river cruiser that I paid $10K for. It had a galley and a cabin and a potty. It would have qualified for the second home mortgage deduction if I had taken out a loan to buy it. The fact that neither you nor I can afford a yacht or a vacation home in Aspen isn't a sign that those who can afford these things are tax cheats. Your whine sounds a bunch like sour grapes. Get over it--life isn't fair.

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Oooohhhhhh nice idea. I did put in an order for a cz scorpion. Last time I ordered 5.7, I think I got it from palmetto. Not sure why, but at the time they were cheapest. Check slickguns.com or whatever it is for going ammo prices if you haven't already

Well he is missing contact info. I take the rant to be an ad itself though. I will say an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. NADA can say all day what it's worth but that dosent pay any bills. In the end a 600cc bandit isn't a highly desirable bike.

Not sure if neg rep or pos rep is neccessary for that realization

Holy crap, I am @magley64 now.

Want a pool table ?

JBot, Skull and myself should replace the underperforming pot stirrers.

You bitched at the gas stop when we met up with the other half of the group. 'Are we almost done with the freeway, I can't stand this shit'.

I thought the day was cut short because of rain.

Wow. Just wow. I don't even know where to start. I don't know that it's even worth trying to clarify anything because it seems that everything that happened that day was exactly the way it's supposed to happen. Just not the way you wanted it to happen. Am I wrong here? Sounds more of an ego issue now. But two things you keep running with are visors and following. Visor down is the track rule. It's covered in the riders meeting and again in the novice meeting. Seems to me you felt above the meetings and didn't pay attention. Also the lady at pit out letting you on track is looking for two things to let you out. Group sticker and visor down. The follow me is not all day as you keep saying. It's till the last 2 sessions. We use those last two sessions to cut riders loose, evaluate for bumps and one on one coaching. And yes, that is explained on the PTR web page and in the novice meeting. I feel like no matter what we say you will argue it and not be happy.

@Connie14 I think you actually meant "with impunity" Sorry. Occasional grammar Nazi here. Your point about the government spending every dime we give them plus a couple more we haven't yet is well taken. The folks who are on the "free medical" and the "free college education" bandwagon are either the ones who don't pay any income tax or they're so clueless that they don't understand the government doesn't actually HAVE any money other than what the citizens give them in the way of taxes...or that they print out of thin air with no monetary value basis. Check out the National Debt clock and pay particular attention to the far lower right corner, where the current dollar-to-gold value is nearly $8000/oz. Current market value on gold is approximately $1350/oz. http://www.usdebtclock.org/

^that, all of that... same goes for intermediate...

Let us know how you like it!

I say all boys should have a vasectomy at 15 (or when they decide to have sex) and if they want kids have it reversed... Best birth control. Threaten to cut a teenage boys nut sac and they will think twice about sex..... ......I am just joking...

OR.... the federal government could spend less and let the people keep the money THEY WORK hard to earn! I know that's an insanely crazy idea! The government spends YOUR money so much better than you would! Tonik, you would just waste the money on another motorcycle.... what a ridiculous use of funds!

agreed. we should incite violence against the mods who did this constitutionally unacceptable banning or whatever thing they did

I was probably pooping when I made you a mod. Explains the shitty decision.

We might could make it to an explanation but the stupid fucking over moderators keep locking threads just when the dialog gets to the good stuff.

Over moderator! I don't hang out here much anymore so forgive me if I'm not up to speed on any new rule changes. Is it a new OR thing that threads must remain on topic? This seems completely unOR.