I hope that we're not discouraging anybody from joining the ride, as I'm SURE nobody had that intention. All this helmet, gear, and speed talk is just for safety, and I don't think anybody is trying to bash anyone. I think all of the Kat's (and others) that made it through some of Coshocton is an indicator that all the new guys are either good riders, or smart enough to stay within their abilities, because I KNOW a few of the curves we hit would've taken out someone riding over their head, easily! I know this time I'll be on the 250, the Hon-duh needs some suspension work for me to be confident doing that sort of riding.