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You can avoid the flinch by dry/snap cap firing regularly.

Here is the FN striker DAO compact. http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns/fns-series/fns-9-compact/ If you want full frame then get an X, but for carry I just don't see a full frame. Their compact will be smooth.

Listen to this man, he isn't a dumbass. You got to be careful with these 9mm pocket guns, a lot of them suck both with accuracy and comfort while shooting. Or they don't have decent safety measures in place. The long pull gives you that, thus my Bodyguard 38. Or as the OP is looking for a DAO. Although I wouldn't limit it to DAO, as DAO then SA is a great combo too. FN firearms if you are willing to drop cash would be awsome, they make a DAO-SA compact 9 that shoots like a dream. As others have said you can't practice with one and defend with another. So your carry needs to be comfortable enough to get good with. If you keep shooting that thing you WILL develop a flinch from the hurt and you won't be able to hit crap. You may already have done so. Might want to get some snap cap's and have someone randomly load them for you to see if there is a flinch. If you want to try a 38 revolver like my Bodyguard happy to hit Stonewall with you, also you can shoot my DA/SA 45 FN to see what kind of quality that brand is. I am going to get their compact 9 I think.

Earlier you lectured me about the law regarding abortions/fetus's and the law. Let me know how we should proceed on this discussion of the constitution, are we going with a literal translation as you did in the quote above, or are we going with an intent interpretation as decided by the Supreme Court? Choose carefully.

What about getting you to pull up beside me at a light to get you to look at that ant. That was epic.

Finally, someone gets it. Last year 32,000 people were accidentally killed by cars. There were 606 accidental deaths by guns.

I am very happy to say I don't have a Sena.

Wow, very happy you are alive too. I will keep you in my thoughts. Consider not saying much online in case there are legal issues. There have been some odd rulings about that recently.

Dick's Sporting Goods and the similar stores also have Frogg Togg stuff and other brands and the prices are WAY better than the motorcycle stores. My wife has been using her Cabella's or whatever Frogg Toggs for years and they are fine. Same stuff.

Lol, IP and Mags on the same side. That is epic. Missouri is a shall issue state. No training. The chl holders hit the bad guys with 83 percent of the rounds the fired. The highly trained State Police who are trained to shoot and handle stress only hit the mark 68 percent of the time.

Ok, fair enough. I will calm down. Based on your experience how many CHL holders have you seen accidentally shoot someone, or how many have you read about? Honestly, I want to know what the problem is.

I think you are making shit up. For example in Florida. Number of Licenses Issued (since 10/01/87): 1,290,110 Number of Active Licenses: 463,760 Crimes by CCW holder w/ firearm used (since 10/01/87): 164 or 0.012% Innocent bystanders shot: 0

I will never quite being an asshat. It's what I do. Third and last time I am going to ask before I go ballistic. Please show me that there is an actual problem with CHL holders. Show me some statistically significant numbers that people carrying lethal weapons in public are killing people by accident. Let me save you some time googling, there isn't any. Yea, there are a few dumbasses that have messed up, but the numbers are minuscule. I categorically reject your attempt to restrict my rights, or put additional burdens on me for something that only happens in your head. And that is why I come up with completely ridiculous examples. I am answering your completely ridiculous concern in kind. I may be an asshat, but I am a clever well read asshat.

Very valid point. Perhaps the issue is he didn't take enough.

How many people have these people killed or wounded since then?

That or maybe he should have used less drugs.

Freedom of Religion, another constitutionally protected right that does not have mandatory training classes that has killed boatloads of people. The Catholics and their Crusades's, the Muslims and their Jihad or whatever they are doing? Religion has killed millions yet we don't require any training for that. And I am still waiting for someone give me some statistics where licensed CHL holders have committed a statistically significant number of accidental murders. That's the problem with the anti-2nd amendment nuts. They spout out all this bullshit about unsafe gun owners but when you look at the numbers you find out they are full of shit. And that the gun show loophole accounts for pretty much none of the illegally used guns on the streets, further filling them up with shit. And that the fucking homicide rate in the US is currently at a damn near ONE HUNDRED YEAR LOW.

Really? So I can shoot a pregnant woman and only get charged with one murder?

Since abortion is a constitutional right and ends with a death should there be multiple stringent training courses and tests before you are allowed to have one? Also, someone please post up how many people have died or been seriously injured by CHL holders discharging accidentally or wrongly. 1.5 million babies are aborted each year due to accidental discharges.

I think you need to re-evaluate these people at the end of the class. If they still suck and they are passed you have a valid concern. If they don't suck or are not passed then the system is working properly.

Casper, if you don't make these two play Beer Hunter I will be very disappointed in you.

Yes, it's dry.

Might want to bring your motorcycle. Just a thought, a radical on but it's an idea.

There is a Swensons ablock from me.