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What's this stuff then? http://www.bulkammo.com/handgun/bulk-.45-long-colt-ammo It's the same thing they just call it by different names. Have you ever used a gun in a stressed situation? If so how accurate were you? You cannot convince me a 9mm is a good round for defense situations. I carry a gun everyday not because its my right, my choice or it is cool I carry because I have to. My life is on the line I go with either an M4 or 870 as my primary depending on the area I'm working and an hk .40 as my secondary firearm. As there are other guns is prefer over the hk but we have to use what is issued to us. But I wouldn't do the job I do now with a 9mm or a .38. Hell even the ODRC has switched to .40 glocks over the S&W .38 and they rarely ever need to draw their firearm.

So now its just target practice? Go with .22 its cheap and accurate but its a totally different ballgame than the larger calibers. A shotgun is good for target shooting because there are a lot of opportunities to shoot moving targets (more challenging) by shooting trap or skeet. It's a more useful gun target hunting and defense in 1 gun. If your not planning on carrying it why not. Try out a 20 gauge sometime the rounds are pretty cheap and can still stop the badguys. Or if you go to blackwing check out the guys shooting skeet out back. It's a lot of fun just don't let their snobby attitudes scare you off. Some trap and skeet shooters can be a little uppity but most are nice people and will help you out.

Yeah the .22 is a good round for a head headshot, but in a defense situation how likely is it that a new shooter is going to be able to get a headshot?. There have been multiple accounts where .38 rounds have hit the targets head and ricocheted (sp) off. It happened in Columbus when a corrections officer shot an inmate that was attempting to escape from OSU medical center. The stats for the 9mm round are probably beefed up by the gangster mentality of a nine being cool. While I was a corrections officer I knew multiple inmates that had been shot by a 9 and survived. Some even still had the lead in them. I didn't know any that survived being shot by a .40 or larger. Not that that means there aren't any just that there were more that would tell you about it if they were hit with a 9. All the training I have had has trained to shoot for center mass of the body not headshots. Partially due to liability and partially because the body is the larger easier to hit target. Being proficient shooting at paper is way different then shooting at someone shooting back. Even when training with simunitions it becomes very hard to control your breathing and steady your hand and get a good sight picture. If you've never actually pointed a firearm at someone ready to shoot them you won't have any idea how the adrenaline dump will affect you. If you really feel proficient with a .22 and would put your family safety behind it more power to you. I believe a person is more likely to pull off a body shot in a stressed situation. I have also seen videos of people being shot with different types of rounds. The smaller rounds have less stopping power than the larger rounds. The shotgun rounds had the greatest affect. Now if the target is high on certain drugs that can become a major factor. I have personally seen a guy jump off of a 30ft cliff and get up and walk away. He then walked 3 miles thru the mountains before turning himself in. He had a broken pelvis shattered arm and broken ribs. He was also high on some type of amphetamine at the time.I doubt shooting him with a small caliber would stop him immediately before he could stab or shoot you. Despite what you see in the movies people don't die as soon as they get shot. I would rather see someone pointing a .9mm at me than a 12 gauge any day. The shooter has to be way more proficient with the 9 to get a good shot on target than the 12 gauge. That's why my first suggestion was an 870 and second the judge a hand held shotgun. It was mentioned above about LEO choosing glocks over other brands. I know several officers in several agencies that choose what they carry and as far as I know most choose .40 cal or larger. I can't think of any that carry smaller on duty. If you honestly believe a new shooter will be proficient in shooting a small caliber in a stress situation as you can be shooting paper I think your crazy.

Anything 9mm or smaller is horrible for defense but for the most part cheaper can be cheaper at the range. The best gun I can recommend is the taurus judge. It is a revolver that shoots .45 long colt or .410 its cheap to shoot doesn't kick to bad for a revolver and with the .410 loads you don't have to be too accurate. Check out the winchester .410 defense rounds that were designed for the taurus judge. I believe smith and wesson have a similar gun with .45 acp .45 long colt .410 and maybe .454 called the governor. In a high stress situation the semi auto handguns become hard to use due to the body's fight or flight response affecting fine motor skills. It takes a lot of training to be able to overcome that and be able to get a good sight picture or take care of any malfunctions. Watch any police shoot out video they are trained often and still very seldom hit their target without unloading their gun by firing all the rounds in it. Also if you use it in a self defense situation you need to worry about over penetration (going into another room or house). Shot guns loaded with shot will get the job done without being as likely to go through your neighbours house also. I would recommend getting a short barrel .870 for home defense. 18.5in is the shortest you can get. They are inexpensive and easy to operate. Then after that get a taurus judge or sw governor. Then worry about a small cal range gun.

Chest pains that's the big one inmates in prison use. I bet this guy has a record.

[quote name=smashweights;913441 Does a 97 HP v-twin really feel that much less powerful than a 108 HP sportbike? I get that I wouldn't have that shit your pants acceleration to 140 mph anymore' date=' but will that really feel underpowered? Right now, Multi Bike Syndrome is focused on getting my wife on a bike, which she just recently shocked me by saying she was interested in getting her own and take the MSF course. So MBS means getting her off the back of mine and on to her own. I'll probably have multiples in the future when we both start our real careers and make some real money, but right now it's just not gonna happen. I'll be lucky if I can talk her into letting me spend more than my current bike is worth on a single bike, let alone having nearly $10k tied up into two bikes. Yeah mancard, I know. The difference in the feeling of power is due to the power to weight ratio and gearing. The big cruisers I've ridden feel very sluggish. The lack of rpms is noticeable just when you feel the power start to kick in you hit the rev limiter. I think the most comfortable bikes for long distance are the touring bikes like the multistrada the kawi concours the bmw whatever it is. Look at the guys who ride looong rides like from Maine to southern California type rides. Those guys most often have the touring bikes mentioned above. Is your r6 paid off? If so buy some cheap fairings a good set of sliders and lower it for your wife to learn on. As long as she is responsible with the throttle she'll be ok. Especially if someone else is teaching. Why sell a bike that she could use to learn on and you can take out when you feel the bug for a "spirited ride"?

This may help. Victory test ride. http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en-us/test-ride/contact-information.aspx Going from a sportbike to a cruiser is weird it takes awhile to get used to the lower redline and lack of any real powerband. Even the fastest cruisers are slow compared to most bikes. About a year and a half ago I traded my 07 cbr in for a yamaha stratoliner. It was a quick cruiser but it felt like going from a sports car to a cadillac. It was comfortable and handled great for its size it was just lacking in performance overall. But it was awesomely comfortable and massive. I pretty much regreted getting rid of the cbr although the cruiser way of riding was fun just different.

And he's a ninja he doesn't need to fight with his stealth abilities. The enemy is dead way before they know he's there.

Glad you made it though it all ok. If your going to confront someone about their driving (aka road rage) you should expect and be prepared for a fight. People will shoot you over that shit nowadays.

Did you film his reaction? Nowadays that would make you YouTube famous.

I think its a historic tag, because that bike is HISTORY! LOL.

He's showing his dad he doesn't have to go to trade school and get a job. Prison will give him a warm bed three meals and all the time in the world to hang out with crazy fuckers like him all day.

She sounds like a crazy cat lady.

Slide 16 is great you can see the vette drivers face as he is coming to realize he's going get hit by the biker. I bet his insurance will have a blast with those pics.

Wait he's 20 yrs old and had a handgun? That's not possible there's laws against that and shooting people!

I saw them on FB last night. Pretty cool hopefully it drops the price of the other models down.

Sweet bike! You ever take it off any sweet jumps? Lol.

Advrider is pretty good. I found a lot of rides out here on there when I had my dual sport.

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Of course she's a chick on the internet.

Try Gen3 I'm pretty sure she'll ride anything then give you a sammich and movie tickets. .

I'm sure you wont have any trouble finding someone on here that would be glad to let you ride them. I mean ride WITH them.

The first time I rode on the street I took my 76 cb down the road to a curvy gravel and pot hole covered road. I figured if I could make it down that road in one piece I may be ok with riding. But I'm known as being a little crazy.

I haven't rode 89A yet but I live in southeast AZ and while most roads here suck there are a lot of really awesome roads. 191 from clifton to alpine is an awesome ride. Very technical but fun. I plan on taking a weekend and riding from my house to winslow. Now they have a flat bed ford sitting on the side of the road near the corner of route 66. Another well known road is The one going up Mount Lemmon outside of Tucson. It's a good ride but being so close to town and the military bases it gets too much traffic, even during the week. The best roads out here are done on dual sports, side by sides or trucks.

The triple nickle is my favorite road in OH. Take it easy if you think the road is going to go right it'll probably go left. Don't ride too close to the yellow line (if its there) cars + trucks often go left of center. Also its harvest time which means more mud + gravel on the road from the farmers making a living.