A lot of this post is just good, common sense, and I completely understand your stance regarding new riders. In my case, I would love to establish a list of like-minded riders whose attitudes regarding safety and generalized preferences reflect mine, just as you have expressed here. But how is this list possible to cobble together without experience, vis-a-vis meeting/riding with new people? Some OR folks have expressed similar sentiments, i.e., "Who can I ride with? Who shares my values for what is considered a great day out?" If I remember correctly, Uncle Punk (Elyria?) recently shared his personal dilemma about this very subject.