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And they say trump is in denial. Elle OH Elle

Another double CR’s drunk again

I just don’t understand the kind of people that argue needlessly over things they cannot change while thinking their opinions are better than the ones they are arguing with all the while dismissing those who don’t share in either sides bias. :shrug.jif:

Nobody is forcing you to argue with someone who’s mind you aren’t going to change either. Just sayin.

Double Double

:masturboy::masturboy::masturboy: Don’t berate middle or high schoolers, I believe they are smarter and more productive than this thread or politicians. At least your farts are more entertaining than the arguments here. :gabe:

Sounds like he may be better off going solo?

Well, here we go again. I'll restate: and no i'm not giving you an old fashioned.

Yuuuuuppppppppp

I, like many Americans, are waiting for the slightest bit of actual tangible proof instead of foil hat theories and speculation.

China ballots? :gabe: Too soon?

#defundDC

I’m not justifying anything and what they did was wrong, but trying to spin a web of innocence is bullshit. I don’t support either side and trying to claim either side didn’t do this or that is laughable. Also trying to justify what your side does because other did it too is just as bad. Some believe what the left is doing is justified, others believe what the right is doing is justified. I think all yuns are crazy.

Am I the only one that read FAX?

Didn’t they take over Seattle or some city block area?

I’ve debated on adding a mini split to my basement for supplemental heat in my “office” area, but ultimately I’d prefer gas as I need the heat more than I need extra cooling. For both, a split is hard to beat.

FTFY

If you feel safe, there are online services you can email and they fax it. There are also fax software suites you can download and use. I’ve done it before when a place would only accept a fax. You can also use a google voice line to send the fax.

They need to be cheap enough to pull these “kids” in so they get into cars like was discussed before. Get them into the car, then get them to upgrade to the v8. I agree the step to a v8 is bad as well, but one hurdle at a time. As for ev’s, Low 30k for a leaf is tater. You can’t tell me the ev drivetrain adds 20k to the cost. Most of those econobox ev’s are 10k for the gas variant. If you want people to adopt ev technology, it has to be available. As I said, don’t keep the prices out of reach then legislate laws forcing people into an ev. They are cramming taxes, fees and emission regulations but penalizing people who currently want to adopt an ev.

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My wife and I were discussing this yesterday. We'd have an electric car already if it weren't for them being tater priced. On top of that, much of the tax credits are disappearing or getting harder to get. Then add that to the fact that our local area adds an extra tax onto your registration because you don't buy gas. No wonder people won't buy in to the electric car hype. To me it's total BS. They jack up the price of certain things until the average person can't afford it, then when they don't take off they mandate them. Huge profits are the normal concentrating point for most companies any more. They don't care about value or longevity, it's just squeezing every penny out of each person they can. It's no surprise to me that older used cars are skyrocketing in price and have huge demand.

I don't disagree. They typically sell the 4 & 6 versions of these cars because people want a "pony" car but can't afford the V8 part. I think they should concentrate the effort on making the 4/6 versions more affordable to move volume. Then make it less of a step for those 4/6 drivers to later upgrade into a decent v8 car instead of optioning them all to the teeth making them unaffordable.

That's why they play engine sounds through the radio now Why is the challenger/charger v6 a joke but the camaro isn't? The camaro has a 4cyl too! They are all a stone's throw within each other, including the 5.7L v8!

hi william, pay someone better than ryan to do it correctly.

Those were my personal opinions, but I'll expand. The 5.7L Charger/Challenger is a joke and shouldn't even be an option. 392 or GFTO, the 5.7 is useless in that pig of a car. Once you step into the 392, the only real one that's semi-affordable is the Scat Pack but to get it budget you have to strip all the options out. Good luck finding one at dealers for the entry price point, which they tout but it's nearly unattainable. Sure you can order one, but then you typically lose out on the incentives that are in place to get people buying them. Trust me I tried, most incentives are only available if you take delivery from dealer stock and they will likely never order base 392 cars. Camaro is a similar story to the above. They try to sell it as affordable but they option up the trims so heavily that it's hard to get a decent performing V8 without all the excessive sticker bloat. Don't even say V6 because that's a huge LOL. As for the mustang, I'll reiterate. MUSTANG LOL (If you couldn't tell by now, i'm not a mustang fan.)