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Can't contribute there as I'm not much up on military spending and what not. I can say that I have zero doubt money is wasted, thus another shining example of why I don't want the gov't trying to manage another dime of my money or even remotely trying to manage healthcare. Yeah...gov't run healthcare led by Obama...how's that for a fucking disaster in the making. Wake up America! I do however think it would be a mistake to not insure our military is primed and ready to go to war with solid equipment for when it's needed.

If China turns off Obama's money faucet everyone in that video will be knocking down the doors of the middle class to steal stuff. Time to arm ourselves for when the apocalypses comes.

We agree. Holy shit..... We agree on the poor people comment. However, if your comment is that we are placing a huge burden on the middle class and not enough on the upper class then instead of screwing those that make more by charging them more, how about we raise the bar and not give the poor so many freebies and increase our expectations that they too begin to raise their game and give back. I agree that a simple flat tax works but needs refinement to prevent too much burden on some.

Who cares. If there's a guy running a business that doesn't work hard, who cares. Isn't the little inside secret goal of everyone to work less and make more? Achieve that and it's called working smart. Let's not penalize the those that work smart.

won't happen, hasn't happened, never will. if people were to so driven to "chose" to do that they would have. don't fuck the have's in fear of the improbable. yes and they choose those positions knowing the status of how a capitalistic market works. most of the above you listed actually do quite fine anyway so I hardly see the need for them to complain. if a cop is upset about Romney, then I'm sorry, you too could have what he has but chose not to because money wasn't as important to them. they got what they asked for. I'm saying if she's making $70k a year as a teacher she has plenty of potential to invest in the market just the same. Back when the wife and I made that collectively together, we did it just fine. If you tax me the same on my market investments as you do on my standard W2 income say 14% vs 35% I'm more likely to reduce the risk I take with my money which will not lead to as much of a productive market. I'll do as you and balance out the numbers which may still mean investing but my choices and risks won't be the same as if I were realizing a capital gains advantage to factor in. I've done consulting work and know that business owners pay more than their fair share of money and take bar far greater risks than the average worker they employ. They are entitled to greater reward, benefits and perks because of that. I"m sorry, we can agree to disagree on that point.

It's apparent he has no credible counter points or lacks the interest to make them thus trying to slam me makes him feel better. meh.....

can't say I fact-check it but it was something I read recently in an email that circulated around and like you, I agree with it regardless of the author.

Interesting quote from old Abe. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves. --Abraham Lincoln

With his head that close to the ground it makes me wish there was a small camera on his visor to see what it was like.

He was spoolinpastthestickies. In for his redemption.

I think yellow jackets fall into some Obama protected group of socialistic equality that provides them tax free havens and food stamps so that they can feed off the food of others while enjoying summertime picnics with their family. Yellow jackets are part of that same 47%.

This is America and a capitalistic society where the first 9 men have made a their choice to sell their labor or time for their job based on what they decided to do with their life. Just because one man chooses to be a blue color guy and the other a doctor doesn't make the system bad. Choices, we all make them. What to be less impacted by consumption taxes then make choices that will result in a better paying job. In terms of capital gains, it would be bullshit to not provide incentives to those doctors to invest in the market. If you taxed me higher there's no incentive for me to invest. I'm sorry but Romney is spot on with his thoughts. Those that disagree are typically those that don't have the money to invest and are stuck in a $50k/yr job by choices they made. He made his money and made some solid choices to do it. He also continues to take risks that others choose not to or can't, again, based on their previous choices. This country needs less lowering of the bar and more kicks in the ass to get people to raise their own game. People need to stop bitching about what the other guy has and start trying to get more for themselves through the same hard work and smart moves. They need to look at what's happening because of them and not whining about what they perceive is happening to them. Yep, and that 10th man hires the same 50 publicly schooled employees that his tax dollars also contributed to as does everyone else. Uses the same interstate system he too pays taxes on. You're inferring that because he chose to work hard and take on more responsibility and provide more jobs to those around him and contribute more in the way of payroll and other taxes by running a business that involves shipping goods he should be penalized over the guy that chooses to work at the local drug store? Dumb. As a business owner you know he already pays more and works harder. There's no disproportionate uses going on that need taxed further. Don't lower the bar for him by taxing him more, raise it for everyone by encouraging them to go for the same carrot that hangs before them just the same. and socialistic views that penalize success lower the bar for the nation. in sales it's called pay the performers. not everyone will achieve performer status even when they really try. welcome to life. Natural selection is natural.

Wear some shorts and jump up and down in the general area. Watch closely as they land on your legs and begin firing away on you as to where they are coming from. My guess is they are living in the tree stump. Look for a split or a crack in the stump. Then look towards the base as they may have made a nest under it.

It's not silly to suggest a POTUS Skill set will make a difference. I'll explain, but first, I'll agree with you that business acumen is only a part of it. A true leader is charged with providing visions and have the ability to influence others to do more than they would do on their own. Leaders influence thoughts, emotions and actions of those working for them and with them. They do this through credibility, trust and respect. Now, take away their credibility, respect and general belief that they know what the hell their doing and you get gridlock or no votes. Essentially what Obama has. Not surprising either. He's a great orator but has no hands on experience or proof that he can make anything happen. That said, it's no surprise the last four years haven't resulted in any improvements. It's also no surprise that those he most work with in both parties have no desire to agree with him, have little respect for him and see him as nothing more than a great orator. He has the balls to try and claim Mitt's numbers don't add up yet he's yet to prove he has ever added anything up and brought it to life. Contrast that with what Mitt has done his entire life for companies in as bad or worse shape than our economy is in right now. We need what he has to offer far more than what Obama has to offer. So it looks as if we agree on the first part of your comment. the second however, I'll leave you with the fact that while you seem to not want to blame Obama for our economic situation, hell, I'll even give you that....let's not blame him for what he walked into. However, he has made it way, way worse and has little results in the way of improving life for the Middle Class and that is a direct result of his lack of acumen. The man had four years to deliver and didn't. Rule #1 in trust and respect is to do what you say you're going to do. He failed. He had a great set of interviews but a poor brag-book coming into term 1. What's changed to make us believe or know anything will be different in term 2? Nothing.

What Romney is saying is at a Federal Level there's no need for big gov't to pass further legislation. He's leaving that up to the states just as he did when he was Govenor of MA when he crafted the bipartisian legistion. he believes in enforcing the laws in place and let the states decide should they feel different. Contrast that with Obama who doesn't believe in reaching across the table let alone does he even posses those skills and influence, he comes to the table with "details" aka his way or the gridlock highway.

Where one comes from doesn't mean shit. The man was one of three initial partners in 1984 and put his family and his own finances on the line as the company was born. He and his partners worked to raise the initial money to run the company, it wasn't provided to him on a silver spoon. There was considerable risk involved and it wasn't perceived acumen that drove the success they have had. He knows his shit and was more than willing and able to put up or shut up and did it with all the marbles on the line. No different than a skilled and well trained chef. Using your logic a well trained chef can't create a dish from scratch. You might not consider what he did building something from scratch, but having an education doesn't negate that. In terms of building his own CAREER, he did EXACTLY that. Read up on his past and how he made his money. No one handed him what he has. ^^ the above applies 200% to Obama not Romney. Want data on his skills and abilities, then look at the companies he's worked with and the fact that many if not most of them have come forward to endorse and say words about him and what he was able to do. Show us any of that about Obama. The country is in a shitty financial situation being led by a man with no personal financial success worth comparing to Romney nor an ability to negotiate and influence people to come together to make impactful decision. In the end, yeah, what people have shown they have done is way more credible than someone who talks a good game, hasn't delivered in the past nor been able to foster improvements in the last four years while holding the highest position in the country. He's failed to deliver, bottom line. No studies needed, no Romney talking points needed, the proof is all around us.

Go to the garden center and see if there is any left. Contains a Neurotoxin that's highly poisonous to bees. Works great. Wait until dark, us a funnel fill the hole and pour a small mound on the next hole. As they dig out they will carry it back inside and thus killing the entire hive. http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/613499/613499070074lg.jpg

The world according to Obama where being a successful businessman is evil. I can't believe Obama snapped with his smart-ass comment about Romney's pension vs his. Sadly, it's probably true on many accounts. Obama likely doesn't look at his investments like Romney does. Yep, that's just the kinda guy we need running our country for another four years. :dumb: He likely also doesn't have as much money because, yes, Romney has been far more successful building a successful career from scratch. Obama likely couldn't bake cookies from scratch let alone help anyone in American make any scratch.

Please elaborate and please include the methods of doing these same things. I think 100% of the country is clear on where we stood in 2008 and it's also pretty clear where we are now and how the two situations compare. No one is mis informed on either. In 2008 the our situation sucked ass. Today, it sucks ass that's four years older. The difference being Romney has a successful track record, Obama does not. In terms of going forward, I don't base my decision on promises, part of what I base it on is their ability and proven history. If anyone things Obama a better understanding of how to crunch numbers and do anything finanicially related or business related better than Romney, I'd love to understand what they are basing thier beliefs on. You're right, leaders don't always make the decisions. They are put in office to provide visions and influence others to do more than they would do on their own. Leaders influence thoughts, emotions and actions of those working for them. Thus why Romney isn't about to put his "details" and plans laid out for all to criticize. He knows all to well that his leadership comes from being able to have a solid framework and vision so that he can work with all parties involved to fill in the details based on decisions that pass his filter system. Obama lacks credibility and thus didn't have the respect he needed to influence others thus was left with gridlock. I don't see that same situation happening with Romney.

So are we talking ak47's, guns of that grade, any automatic rifle or what? In the end, I have a right to keep and bear arms, and that right shall not be infringed. /period. I don't think it's even open to question or debate the "type" of arms I can bear. It bothers me that a CCW is the states way of making me pay to exercise my right. I can open carry in Ohio and lawmakers are good with that, but I put it in my belt and they have a problem? Really? So if I'm out to kill as you walk down the street because I'm a crazy fuck, does seeing my gun in my belt really help save your life? Bang, you're dead either way. In terms of my firearms, I upgrade and own what I do for the same reason the police and military do....because I too have the right not to be put in harms way by being underpowered when defending myself against criminals who could carry more firepower than you might think. Here in Dublin, you're likely to meet a 12ga in my home at night. On our farm 10mins north of Zainyville, you'll likely take a slew of AR round as you break in. I don't need to take the precautions out there I do here as a round can travel miles and I have no worries out there as we have no neighbors in a direct line of sight.

Obama's last four years of pain are just his way of instituting greater gun control. He's accomplishing this by keeping people out of work, taxing them to death, letting them spend more on the basics in life and insuring all this will continue by racking up debt so that even our kids won't be able to afford guns.

I missed that restriction in the 2nd amendment.

Remember your audience now...........for most it would be:marc2:

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Here are the first two. Only four more to go by Halloween. Kids had a blast and yeah, so did I Post up yours! http://www.pbase.com/timothylauro/image/146752717/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/timothylauro/image/146752716/original.jpg