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Flawless victory :masturboy:

As log as they don't call you rust rocket :gabe:

Fixed and in the end Romney's changes will cost me far less than full fledged Obamacare. I've worked with doctors and in the medical arena for nearly 20 years and have 3 MD's in our family. It's crystal clear what Obama proposes will insure that the field of doctors taking Medicare patients will not only be far, far smaller, thus choices limited and ultimately forcing seniors into the Obamacare Medicaid program. FAIL. Then if my parents and those wanting to go elsewhere will have to do so just the same only with entirely all their money. I'll let the doctors like Kirk here chime in to fill you in more if you don't believe me. Just watch what happens if/when Obamacare hits us full force. I'll bet 90% or better on this board will eventually be on his Gov't insurance plans waiting in lines for average at best care. I lived in Toronto for several years and was lucky enough to have options here in the states while those around me suffer through their system.

So you have no interest in sharing what it is about Obama you like or Mitt that you don't yet you post in a debate thread on that very topic Such a lack of detail will get you crucified by many here. Just as the GOP Fans.

It's called t-ball. I set the ball there perfectly for you. Nice hit. now that's classic internet banter lingo and irony. let me guess, you're voting for Obama too.

says the guy with 5,100 posts since July of 2007

it's clear you don't get it, especially if you follow my posts. I don't hate Obama, I completely disagree with his policies I don't hate poor people, I don't like those that sponge or take no responsibility I don't hate based on income I live inside 270 I've raced cars long ago before many here were even driving Your highlights here are entertaining too.

you're welcome for my continued reading lessons. I'm 87% serious in that one of this nations problems is people have short attention span theater syndrome. Again, we get what we ask for, Obama in office.

they must be part of the 47% then......:fa: excuse me while I go hand out more food stamps and type up some cliff notes.

having little to no experience or track record of success, especially after being in office for a full term has no place in a re-election of leaders for this country. sadly the dems felt Obama/Biden were the very best they had to offer.

Proof as to why having buses run to Easton or the Casino is not a good idea.

No I mean like the way Obama/Biden and the dems try and "negotiate" within the administration. Obamacare was crammed down our throats by Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate. Fuck just knowing Pelosi, Ried and Clinton are all in the same boat with Obama makes me cringe with sorrow for the country. These are the dumb asses making decisions for our people :no: But hey....at least he had a plan with details on how he was going to make it happen. What need did he have to work with anyone on said details. He's a solid businessman with a strong track record that doesn't give a fuck about working with others. Just smooth talk the public and force us to hope his change will work despite the costs involved. :dumb: Hey, to all those struggling that voted for these fools, congrats and just remember the phrase, "thank you sir, may I have another" Seriously, if you are hurting, got laid off recently or are struggling and voted for him....then thank you got what you voted to have in place. Let's just hope you then think about that before doing that again. But to your point, I do believe Romney is more qualified in terms of Heath Care. Unlike Obama his track record shows he has a way better blend of balancing opinions of those around him. The fact that he worked on the system in MA leave him very well positioned comment the mistakes in Obamacare and provide us a better solution. He's been there done that where Obama lacks the ability to come to the table with experience. I don't need a study to show me anything. Look to who has done what. Obama couldn't get everyone to even agree on his plan so he stuffed it upon us. Romney didn't do that in MA. Romney also doesn't come across as arrogant like Obama and is willing to admit where his plan in MA had both good and bad parts. Romney comes up with plans and executes them. He may not win every time but his record is far more successful and through failure comes learning. Obama lacks experience and has no wins to speak of. Not to mention he's pretty stuck on his plan is what we all need and doesn't learn from his failures. Proof in his repeated adds to the deficit through poor ideas is proof. We're in for more of the same if he's put back in office. That's very clear.

Don't need them in this debate. Did Obama/Biden have studies that showed their plan would work? Perhaps they did, but obviously that didn't matter. Why? Because they had zero credibility or qualification for even being put in office to begin with. How did their first term work America? Do either have a history that said they could come close to fixing things? What's changed since 2008? Still waiting on proof that Obama/Biden have a clue or proof they should even have been there to begin wit let alone for another painful 4 years. Have they done what they said they were going to do? They ran on Hope and Change. Seriously? The American people that voted for them got what they deserved. I hope their kids kick them in the nuts for it....right after mine do.

and what are the chances Obama/Biden would even come close to the above? has anything they've done prove they can come close to bettering our situation the country is in? I'm not talking plans or ideas or hope and change, I'm talking real world put up or shut up actions that will do any better or even close to what's needed. they don't have the skills nor background nor do the last four years of being in office offer them any credibility to warrant another term. there's zero sense in putting them back in office. again, is Romney, the second coming...no, but he's a fucking hell of a lot better option than the guys who have show little of anything so far. Perhaps you want to run with them again, but I have no interest in what they are offering. Especially gov't run healthcare. they can't manage what is in front of them, let alone health care reform.

All of the above are completely fair and available to all under the current rules. There's no shame or blame in the above. Romney put his money in the market vs the avg. Joe that earns $50k that Biden talks about. Congrats to Romney and those of us in the market. We're the ones letting our earnings make us money and run the economy. I'm not saying the avg $50k earner is bad, but they have the same opportunity to invest as everyone else. That 14% tax is on investments no a bimonthly paycheck. Completely different things. Just because one person who has the means play the market doesn't make them a bad person. These breaks are out there to encourage investment. If the taxes were equal my wife and I wouldn't take the risk on the market and would just sit on our money. We don't because the risk/reward opportunity is attractive and when we win, we get the break. Pretty simple. Again, you can't fault Romeny or those with means for driving investment. Ryan asking for Stimulus money...why not? Fuck, if Biden and Obama are going to hand out money doesn't is seem reasonable that a Republican serving should support his own constituents and get them their fair share of the dough? Again, using the system that was put in place. He looked out for his people. Biden and Obama had the role of insuring their program was solvent and beneficial. Can't fault Ryan for what he did. Same for his family on SS and medicare. I see no clause that says they can't use it. His family is hardly in the group of people who live soley off gov't programs sponging off the people, which is in reality, the group Romney was referring to. What he said was phrased incorrectly, no doubt, but Biden's neighbors, unless their crack head pimps with no education sucking off the system aren't in the category that Romney was speaking of. I just drove through downtown Lansing, MI and saw the groups of people with Obama signs up in the yards. Many of them were in hood rat neighborhoods filled with Section 8 homes with guys sitting on their porch smoking and drinking as the rest of us start our work day. Damn straight they want Obama in office because they will get more free-bee's. Again, completely different than the elderly couple living in the burbs on SS and retirement plans/fixed incomes who put in an honest living back in the day. Raise the bar, support those that put in their dues and work to better themselves. Don't continue to reward or support those that choose otherwise. I stopped in a grocery there to pick up some breakfast and was behind a lady with two kids in tow, a cart full of snack food, beer and asking for smokes. She paid for her "food" with food stamps and the smokes and beer with Cash. I bet she has an Obama sticker on her car too. THAT is the bullshit that Romney is referencing. Mitt was right to want GM to crash too. Fuck, Obama took a chance with our money and had nothing to lose. If it didn't work, he didn't care, it was just the first of many spends$$ that he was lining up to do. If the GM bailout did work, he would be a hero. Obama played that card well as it was a lose who cares / win, I'm a here scenario for him. Mitt doesn't take those chances nor would he support the bullshit that caused GM to be in such a position. Do you really see Obama giving a shit about a $17T debt? His actions show he could care less and he just keeps racking it up. He has such poor business sense it's amazes me that the people can even buy his credibility. I'm pro choice and with you on that. The fact that either side is even remotely focused on fucking with such issues in this time / situation we're in pisses me off. Fix the economy NOW!

Get actual pics and signage and post up on Mazda247 and MazdaSpeed.com. They will sell.

best reply in thread. That guy needs to moderate the next debate :gabe:

In for someone to call out the plane for a 40-120 roll. BTW....love the Mustang.

I gotta like his comment where he says if she wants to act like a man, he's going to treat her like a man. IMO that chick needed to sit her ass down and STFU. Typical reaction though. Go into any Burlington Coat Factory and you'll see that at the registers several times per day. :dumb:

prolly right but I think he will not only be able to win a good number of them over, but they too will want to side with a winner in order to look good. he knows that too and will likely play that card. right now they all look bad.

That was his campaign so why not? Should have read "Hope for Change" At least then it would have been accurate. Although we did get change; just things changed for the worst. I'm a numbers guy too and I'm also a realist. This mess started back with Clinton and built up through Obama so no, it's not going to get fixed in 8yrs. Not likely 10-12 either. However, it can get lots better and begin to have a positive impact quickly. Again, see above as to why details won't likely be shown. No benefit and it only humors the Dems. Fuck the dems. Make them run on their own merits if they can find any. Honestly, if Americans put Obama in office again, I will officially lose my faith in our collective intelligence as a nation. If that happens I also predict that in the next 1-2 years we will go through another recession that will top 2008-2009. I disagree. I think he will make a difference. No one is looking for him to solve this mess. Even Romney early on said it is more than a two term issue but that he's confident he can get things going in the right direction. That's all we need. Once things are righted again, this country will come around. Dems can try all day long, but if he's gets things going in the right direction, even if it's not completely fixed, trying to be negative on that will cost them the 2016 election.

"Fuck Obama" is my new watermark :fuckyeah:

Obama ran on hope and change, and dumb, desperate voters put him in office. Romney has credibility and history in both the private sector and public sector. Is he perfect or the second coming...no. Personally, I don't need to read through the details and bullshit that I know will likely get bashed around by congress. I'm much more interested in supporting a candidate that has shown they can do what they say and has the skills to negotiate and foster relationships and make millions for his clients and himself vs Obama who has done a wonderfull job putting Americans on food stamps and moving a country forward to a lower overall credit rating. :dumb: I could care less about where he was born, what color he is or how his name is spelled. Obama had zero credibility in 2008, has far less if any now and his plans have yet to produce results. If he was an employee of mine, he would have been written up and fired long ago. The job is not getting done and if anything things are a ton worse now. It's time to go back to Chicago.

Bush caused the wreck? really? I think affordable housing started under Carter then was really driven by Clinton who also passed NAFTA. Yep, let's lower the bar on the American Dream and give loans to people who have no business owning a home to begin with. Obamacare is more of the same....let's pay healthcare for everyone.....keep giving more and more to many of the same folks who refuse to improve their own lives by getting off gov't assistance.

how are the republicans or folks like me ignorant? I understand exactly what Obama is trying to do. he's adding more hope to the hope and change of his moving us forward. all I see is us falling off a cliff and my kids and their kids paying debts he's driven up for the past four years.