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Bravo, Dr. Bravo! Bravo!

In Upper Arlington, you say? Seems to me that there's another CR member who lives in Upper Arlington. I can remember him mentioning once or twice that he lived there. http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r445/martyr65/emoticons/confused0006.gif Now, who is that? Perhaps he would be willing to join you. I'll let you know if I remember who that is.

And this criticism is coming from someone who has been at how many meets/events in the last year, Chris? And is on CR how often, Chris? My guess is that about a half dozen members miss the Gabe antics and about 2000 members don't. Just my .02

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r445/martyr65/hannibal_lecter20copy.jpg Perhaps I can have you for dinner one night and we can discuss your proposal.

Welcome, Jon. Great introduction. I think you'll find a lot of kindred spirits here. Our car shows/meets/track days are a lot more laid-back and friendly than many others in the area. I hope you get a chance to come out to one this spring so you can meet some of the crew.

Can't beat Smashburger. I'm in.

One of the few cars I envy, but I can't be adding another car right now. Gorgeous condition. GLWS.

Welcome back, Justin. It doesn't seem as though it could have already been three years.

I know that you said you wanted opinions from among the three colors you chose, but my choice for that particular car would be this: http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r445/martyr65/2012-Bentley-Continental-GT-Speed-Apple-Green_zpseefee416.jpg Ever since Bentley introduced the apple green, I've wanted it. Also, I've wondered if as many CTS-V owners would choose Diamond Black if it were named Dusty Black (which is what it looks like to me). So much of it is what the name connotes rather than how the car actually looks like in that color. I'm sure you'll be satisfied with whatever color you finally select.

Well-deserved recognition, Alex. :thumbup: I'm hoping you become the top welding fabricator in the world, which would make your "early works" valuable.

Thanks to everyone who dropped by. We had 20 members tonight and didn't close until 2:10 a.m. Katelyn was our youngest guest at 13, but was still up to the task of trouncing Jones at foosball. It was great seeing everyone. We had a surprise cameo appearance by Mensan (Eli) at Blue Ginger, much to everyone's delight.

7:45-8:00 would prolly work best to meet for dinner if you're considering north side eateries. Blue Ginger on Sawmill is a thought. That way, you can cruise right up Sawmill/Liberty Road and go directly to the Hangout away from any towns/traffic. Wholly Joe's on Polaris is good for sammiches and pizza, but consider meeting a little earlier or calling ahead to order because the deep dish pies take time to bake. You can park right up against the restaurant windows if security is a concern. Just down the road from Wholly Joe's is Jason's Deli. All three of these restaurants have only medium crowds by 8 p.m. Saturday. Or, suggest somewhere else.

Well, Saturday's the pick I guess. Now to determine the following: eat or no where what time Once those are decided, I can revise the first post.

Ideas of when and where for dinner? I've heard BJ's Brewhouse is rocking an upgraded sound system. More views on which night?

That's kind of you to say. I'm definitely not smarter, I just lived through more of this. I don't get on my soapbox to try to "win" this argument by convincing people of my view; rather, my goal is to get people to think about the issue of inequality more deeply than perhaps they have. It's an important issue of our times. You're probably right in what you've said above. But, is it possible that the purity of which you speak only appears to be greater in the struggle in the 1770's because history has whitewashed it to be that way? To put it another way, do you think there might have been patriots in it for their own gain, or to be in the spotlight, we just don't know about them because of the way history was written? We are quick to see the flaws of the Other, but quick to forget the flaws in our own tribe. Well, there's going to be hate either way. The downside of freedom is that people who disagree with us get to talk. I think we call them stupid because they disagree with us. I've learned a lot of things from people I formerly thought of as "stupid."

You say unjustly taxed. That was the point of view of the colonials, but not the view of their government, the English citizens who owned the import companies, or the majority of English citizens in general. The colonials felt that they shouldn't have to pay taxes unless they had elected representatives in the government. Although that is a point of view, I don't believe you can say it is inherently unjust. It happens all the time in our society now and we don't think twice about it. Where was the due process for the owners of the tea? What court ever determined that the tax was unjust? And in case you've forgotten, the tea thrown into the harbor was the tea that was being brought to America for the colonists to buy. It was tea destined for them. They screwed it up for themselves by doing what they did. I wouldn't be surprised if a case or two made it into some of the colonists homes instead of the harbor. One group was upset on paying tax on tea and other commodities without having a say in the tax law. They stormed out of a meeting, some dressed at Mohawks (think about that for a moment), rioted, and destroyed business inventory. They were passionate about their cause and deliberate in their actions. We call them heroes and patriots. Hurrah for "our side." Another group felt that they were increasingly being discriminated against because of their race, profiled by police, more likely to be improperly detained, arrested, shot, and killed. When a young black man was shot and killed and there was rumor that it was unjustified, some in the community took the law into their own hands and rioted, destroying and looting in their neighborhood. They were passionate about their cause and deliberate in their actions. We call them criminals, a lawless mob. We label them that way because they are the "other," they're not in our tribe. Shame on them. They're dumb. The big issues? Taxation without representation. Racial profiling and unequal application of the law. Which is the bigger issue for you: tax on your tea or your kid killed by police because he was black? It's all your point of view. When your side wins, you get to write the history your way. Your terrorists transform into patriots. TLDR: When a class of citizens of a country feel that they have to use violence to get their grievances redressed, their government has failed them. To the extent that we are a democracy, that means that we citizens have failed them, too. As long as good people are committed to strive for justice and equality, the process will gradually take us there.

Honestly, your question is a fair one. I've spent some time thinking about compare/contrast the riot with the Boston Tea Party. I think it would be a rich discussion. Think of the actual issues at stake, review the history, try to put aside your preconceptions, then come to your own conclusions.

While that sounds good, Brian, consider this: when people feel passionately that their rulers are acting unjustly and those people feel there is no effective way to peacefully get redress, then emotions flare. I don't agree that a riot necessarily means that people lack adequate forethought or lack dedication to their cause. Perhaps just the opposite. You've heard of this, haven't you? Talk about "....destroying and stealing from another person's business" in the name of justice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party .

Join us at Blue Ginger @ 8pm., 6234 Sawmill Road Hangout opens at 10. Not familiar with it? Here: http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119905

Daniel has been a lifesaver at the Hangout. The big screen was faulty out of the box and he did a great job of upgrading electronics so that we'd have dependable movies and gaming. :thumbup: Any help CR folks could be to him would be greatly appreciated. He's had some unique and inventive builds.

Once they begin in the cold season, I'm agreeable to opening the Hangout Friday and Saturday nights provided there are four or more CR members confirmed to attend. Fewer than that and I suggest they just meet at a restaurant rather than driving to Delaware. Sometimes it gets old if it's the same four or five all the time and we open every weekend, so if I've got other priorities for the weekend, I usually request we only open one day rather than two. On the other hand, some nights we have over twenty there and people want another night to come back that weekend. So I guess the short answer is this: scheduling is random and determined by threads on CR. I've tried opening earlier than 10, but people still roll in about 10.

I love that WRX and love the color. Welcome! +rep :thumbup:

You're always welcome, Brendan. There were 10 people there Saturday night until just after 2 a.m.

The bay is in use for detailing. I wouldn't recommend setting up a car wash tonight. You're surrounded by clean cars. But if you need a warm place to give the car a good vacuum or do a quick repair, be my guest.

Okey dokey. See you at 10