Well if you want to talk torque (HD guys always do for some reason) then no, a 600cc map bike DOESNT make 74 ft lbs, but they do make more than the STD sportster does with 1/2 the displacement. Now, let's level the playing field and put your 1200cc up against my 1299 cc and let's talk tq. Not only do I make more tq, I also make about 2x the hp, and 75 whopping ft/lbs or not, that 600cc japper is gonna walk all over that 20 y/o turd. HD is doing what it does best. Selling an image. Do you think anyone would buy a 40y/o replica of a 90 hp japper? No. Why? Because the educated public knows it's a rip off. That's a way over due (by like 20 years) way over priced turd.