fusion Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I gotcha. Like I said, I had read an article in the Army Times discussing the same thing a few years ago. I still believe the military gets taken just for the simple fact they are the military, but it probably doesn't happen as often. Thanks Fusion.No problem. I've had the opportunity to see both sides and it helps a bit. There are still areas I just don't get. Wright-Patt for example contracts out gate guards and that doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it works from a cost perspective and I would think there wold be less continuity in base security. Not something I know a ton about though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 No problem. I've had the opportunity to see both sides and it helps a bit. There are still areas I just don't get. Wright-Patt for example contracts out gate guards and that doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it works from a cost perspective and I would think there wold be less continuity in base security. Not something I know a ton about though. Yeah my base in Cali did the same thing, part of that was corruption within the MP's though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdaho Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Because we need people downrange and in other slots to better utilize their special training. Most of the civilian gate guards are former AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Because we need people downrange and in other slots to better utilize their special training. Most of the civilian gate guards are former AD. but they didnt deploy our MP's, just gave them less to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 You're all fucking retarded... I've yet to see one political discussion here that ended with a single one of you saying "you know, there's something to be seen here... maybe we can find a middle ground"And that's why government never gets anything done... you can't please all the people all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 You're all fucking retarded... I've yet to see one political discussion here that ended with a single one of you saying "you know, there's something to be seen here... maybe we can find a middle ground"And that's why government never gets anything done... you can't please all the people all the time.Where have you been on the ones Ive posted on? I think the one JRMiii and I were so active on, I said basically the same thing so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Where have you been on the ones Ive posted on? I think the one JRMiii and I were so active on, I said basically the same thing so.....awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 awesome the idea of debating is to learn, rarely will you change someones mind in one debate, ESPECIALLY online!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdaho Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I didnt know I was arguing with anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I didnt know I was arguing with anybody. this isnt arguing at all compared to some other threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I'm here for the gangbang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdaho Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 not catcher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 not catcher! reminds me of "Im not gay, you sucked MY dick" LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Because the pot needs stirring today...An Iraqi Field Of US Taxpayer-Bought Trucks Stretching To The Horizon An anonymous military officer shot this photograph at Camp Taji National Depot in Iraq to illustrate the mind-blowing investment the US taxpayer is footing for Iraqi reconstruction. It makes our wallets hurt just looking at it. [Imgur via Reddit] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Because the pot needs stirring today...So THAT'S where the clunkers went! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 It wouldn't be as bad if they were $18,000 Ford Econoline's or something (like at the Avon Lake plant)... but I guarantee you those vehicles are each in the six figures or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 It wouldn't be as bad if they were $18,000 Ford Econoline's or something (like at the Avon Lake plant)... but I guarantee you those vehicles are each in the six figures or more.You guarantee it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 but I guarantee you those vehicles are each in the six figures or more.You guarantee it? How can you be so sure?Where's your source? What's your proof?I call bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) I'm in the supply chain for parts that go on all the vehicles on the left side.They're more than six figures, so... I'm just going to go ahead and assume the even larger vehicles on the right are at a greater cost than the ones I know the general cost of. Edited December 7, 2009 by JRMMiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 touche' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'm in the supply chain for parts that go on all the vehicles on the left side.They're more than six figures, so... I'm just going to go ahead and assume the even larger vehicles on the right are at a greater cost than the ones I know the general cost of.So, because you say so, it must be so?Bull Shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 So, because you say so, it must be so?Bull Shit.You're right. Personal observations are "because I say so" observations that can't be verified by ANY other source. I know you need your hand held and walked through everything, but I just don't feel like spoon feeding you today, Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 You're right. Personal observations are "because I say so" observations that can't be verified by ANY other source. I know you need your hand held and walked through everything, but I just don't feel like spoon feeding you today, Todd.You said they're over six figures each.You said you know this because you (your company) supplies parts for them.You dont "feel like" proving it.I didn't say that it "couldn't be verified" by anyone else, but I don't see anyone jumping at the chance to back you up.I still say bullshit. And until you, or someone else proves otherwise, I'm gonna stick with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 That's fine. You stick with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 You said they're over six figures each.You said you know this because you (your company) supplies parts for them.You dont "feel like" proving it.I didn't say that it "couldn't be verified" by anyone else, but I don't see anyone jumping at the chance to back you up.I still say bullshit. And until you, or someone else proves otherwise, I'm gonna stick with that.Just because we have to...The earth is flat until you prove to me it's round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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