whaler Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Neither of my Honda have these gremlins. Wonder what is different on this model?Honda has had this reputation for 30+ years. They have held fast to an electronic design that leaves them open to failure. This is not a new thing and in most cases I have felt with, care of the machine has been the main culprit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Not a care issue this time...bikes been this way since new. Only 6k miles on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Any advice on battery? Still sitting here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Lol nvm I'm an idiot... Have it sat in there wrong... Been a long morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) She's alive! Thanks for all the help guys... Tender when I get home and I'll look into new battery soon Edited September 10, 2015 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 In AZ temps I would imagine your cooling fan runs quite a lot. The fan draws a lot of current, leaving less available for battery charging, especially at low RPM. That doesn't mean your battery won't charge. It will just charge slower, so you need more riding time to fully charge. Tender sounds like a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bike runs over 220 in the summer with fans going... They run constantly when it's warm, bike is around 217-220 while riding and high as 228 sitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Even had days where it's cooler idling in the sun than riding on the freeway because of how hot the air is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 At idle with the fan running, you are barely charging if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) My Honda 919 manual says it doesn't charge below 3000rpm. That one time I left the key on, I ran in a lower gear at 4000rpm and higher to charge it back up. After the bump start. Bump starts work much better if you can get to a downhill slope. With the fuelie it seems like the speed has to be higher than back-in-the-day, to get it done. Might also take a few seconds to get current flowing to activate the fuel injection pump first. Edited September 10, 2015 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Once the battery has recovered power from starting it doesn't need charging, everything runs off the stator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bike runs over 220 in the summer with fans going... They run constantly when it's warm, bike is around 217-220 while riding and high as 228 sittingAre you running stock coolant? Change out to engine ice. My bike always ran over 200 out there until I swapped out to engine ice. After the swap, on interstates I was back into the 185-190 and city stayed around 200. In traffic and at stoplights the fans came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Are you running stock coolant? Change out to engine ice. My bike always ran over 200 out there until I swapped out to engine ice. After the swap, on interstates I was back into the 185-190 and city stayed around 200. In traffic and at stoplights the fans came on.Wow had no clue that would be such a big difference... I'm due anyways, it's a 12 with 6k and factory coolant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Get the charging system checked after you get it running. Batteries don't go dead on their own during a ride.Batteries do go dead on their own after a ride......if you don't keep water in them. It happened to me this summer. I didn't check it like I should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 what is this water you speak of? lol jk...my vmax had battery you had to keep filled, but man, sealed is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Wheeler Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 On my sixth Honda and never used a battery tender. Never heard of a "reputation" for bad charging. I leave my bike for weeks at a time and it starts fine.Sent from my VS810PP using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I never said all Hondas. But this is a common issue on my particular model and the VFR800... Google it, you will find hundreds of results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) www.hondacb1000r.com/forums/cb1000r-general/14624-bike-won-t-start.htmlwww.hondacb1000r.com/forums/maintenance/14861-starting-issue.htmlwww.hondacb1000r.com/forums/cb1000r-general/15142-hiss-problem-non-starter.htmlwww.hondacb1000r.com/forums/maintenance/14096-cb1000r-warm-start-issues-back-revenge.htmlwww.hondacb1000r.com/forums/maintenance/15667-faulty-battery.html Edited September 12, 2015 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 When you were broke I was googling, found lots including a history of bad stators in earlier models. They fixed a bunch under warranty but never did a recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yea the originals had stator issues... This bike was released in I think 2008 or so over seas.. 2011 model got some minor updates, like different led light in headlamp and different forks/bars... The 2011+ are the only ones brought to USA so stator issues are supposedly corrected for all US models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 My Honda 919 manual says it doesn't charge below 3000rpm. That one time I left the key on, I ran in a lower gear at 4000rpm and higher to charge it back up. After the bump start. Bump starts work much better if you can get to a downhill slope. With the fuelie it seems like the speed has to be higher than back-in-the-day, to get it done. Might also take a few seconds to get current flowing to activate the fuel injection pump first. Ha! I remember that! It was in Lancaster, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 On my sixth Honda and never used a battery tender. Never heard of a "reputation" for bad charging. I leave my bike for weeks at a time and it starts fine.Sent from my VS810PP using TapatalkSomehow cbrs avoided this issue. At least my two did. Vfr was a totally different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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