Mensan Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Here is the slip Sam told us is his, as witnesses in the omni post: http://mark8.org/users/Eli/sams.jpeg This is taken from Sam's original picture that he posted on the 8th, when we open it with photoshop, and then adjust the levels: http://mark8.org/users/Eli/slip.jpg Here is what his opponent states is the real timeslip, even though quality is poor and it does look phony: http://mark8.org/users/Eli/real.jpeg Now, I'm no detective, but when we compare the one Sam posted to the original, and you look closely at the numbers that his opponent state were "modified", it does appear that the top one is actually the photoshopped model. It is also obvious that a 16 second car does not have enough wheelspin to have a 3.8 60' time, and then come back and run 11.4 in the 1/8th (after a 3.8 60'). Sorry, I gotta call graemlins/bsflag.gif . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 bull shit indeed, eli rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Someone is lying, no doubt about that. Obviously the top and bottom time slip are the same w/ one being edited. Simply looking at the same reaction times for both lanes on both slips is enough to figure that out. Sorry to say, but Sam's definately looks more fake than the Omni drivers. The smudge marks are going to be hard to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by Mensan: Now, I'm no detective, but when we compare the one Sam posted to the original, and you look closely at the numbers that his opponent state were "modified", it does appear that the top one is actually the photoshopped model. It is also obvious that a 16 second car does not have enough wheelspin to have a 3.8 60' time, and then come back and run 11.4 in the 1/8th (after a 3.8 60'). Sorry, I gotta call graemlins/bsflag.gif . you are right, the only thing i can think of to get a 3.8 60' time is if the person killed the car at the line (i've done this launcering too low on DR's ) if it were not such a fugged up runn on the left side I could almost overlook the darker areas around the numbers that were changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glhsken Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 EVERYTHING lines up on the left hand side of the slip. Hmmm could that be called the "margin" Why is the 1 in 12:45 the only character to the LEFT of the margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 top one is fake zoom in 10x 86.36 MPH on the bottom left of the top time slip look closely at the "." and the "8" they don't match all of the others on the slip the "." is too square the "8" has a smaller bottom loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ponyfreak Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 typical vette owner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I thought if you raced for money you generally wanted to make people think you were slower than you actually are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 pay attention, high risk. THIS is professional ownage. sometimes calling a spade a spade is all it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 baby jesus crys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIEF Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 He still lost smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1647545489 Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I think its ownage for all the people that believed it. I got a laugh out of it. smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowZ06 Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by Ponyfreak.: typical vette owner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street pilot Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by Orion: pay attention, high risk. THIS is professional ownage. sometimes calling a spade a spade is all it takes. so call two? I'm confused. The top slip looks fudged, no doubt, but why start a new topic about it? graemlins/gives.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Hey, that was MY timeslip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by Doug: I think its ownage for all the people that believed it. I got a laugh out of it. smile.gif 1) You're still slow 2) I didn't. See my topic about his dyno #s and why they don't equate to 126 traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1647545489 Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by Cranked: 1) You're still slow 2) I didn't. See my topic about his dyno #s and why they don't equate to 126 traps.1. You make $40,000+/yr more then me because I'm in school. 2. You believed him at first saying it was a record and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2.2turbojoe Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by glhsken: EVERYTHING lines up on the left hand side of the slip. Hmmm could that be called the "margin" Why is the 1 in 12:45 the only character to the LEFT of the margin. Satan posted: top one is fake zoom in 10x 86.36 MPH on the bottom left of the top time slip look closely at the "." and the "8" they don't match all of the others on the slip the "." is too square the "8" has a smaller bottom loop Man, you guys are good! I would not have noticed that. What I saw that you guys may not have is this... If the staging lanes opened at 12:00 how could there have been 385 cars make a pass in 45 minutes?? Look at the Rnd # Q0 tward the bottom. I have a slip from my first attempt to make a pass (broke an axle in the burn out box) that shows at 1:07 they were only running cars 56 and 57! Then Sam took the 16.540 and subtracted his 11.168 from it and came up with "Right 1st 5.372" the math is correct but he didn't account for the difference in reaction times! Nor did he carry the numbers right of the decimal point to the 4th number! EVERY slip I have (from any track) this number is carried to 4 places right of the point. One last thing I'll bet nobody niticed. Sam "claims" he lost his scanner cable during his move is why it took so long to post the slip. I personally have never seen a scanner that would allow the top left corner be bent tward you, also allowing a small shadow under the entire top edge. Not to mention the whole slip is not even flat. I beleive it was taken with a camera and the scaner cable excuse was BS to account for why it was taking so long to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2.2turbojoe Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Incase some are confused, I'm the Daytona owner that raced Sam in the slip posted above that had a VERY bogged hole shot on my first shake down pass. Here is the page I originaly posted on the "fake" slip issue.... http://community-2.webtv.net/PAGEBUILDERPIC3/SamsPhotoshoped/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest evorx7man Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Don't you think this topic has been run in to the ground a bit dodge boys?? I mean your point has been proved, this is just old now. But thanks for the good entertainment anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by evorx7man: Don't you think this topic has been run in to the ground a bit dodge boys?? I mean your point has been proved, this is just old now. But thanks for the good entertainment anyhow.We've had 10+ TD guys sign up just today. I don't think this is over by a long shot. Not like it can be locked anyways, Kenny will throw another bitch fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Varioram Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 So if the slip is trash...how fast is sam really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by Varioram: So if the slip is trash...how fast is sam really?10s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99BlownYellowGT Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 hes pretty fast graemlins/thumb.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Notchback Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Sam's car is faster than mine. He showed me last friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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