thorne Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'm serious on this topic. I've thought about it long and hard based on his mayor experiance and his backing of bush so heavenly and police state mind. Basicly you have someone that will yank Liberties faster then bush because he was part of the 9/11 action. Look at his stance on guns in new york. So, I have seriously considered moving out of America, I don't know for sure if I would do it but it is a option on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I dunno, I don't follow politics or vote. But would I move out of the US? fuck no, a LOT of shit would have to happen to cause that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Move to where? You will be broke as fuck and live in an even worse off economy. Go to Iraq. They let you carry guns there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benner Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 If I was gonna leave the U.S, I'd move to Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Amsterdam. Hott hookers, and legal drugs. WIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 untill we get rid of the two party system we are just going to continue to trade one lying backstabbing pile of shit for another republican or democrat the result will be the same becuase the paper pushers and the bean counters really run the show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'm serious on this topic. I've thought about it long and hard based on his mayor experiance and his backing of bush so heavenly and police state mind. Basicly you have someone that will yank Liberties faster then bush because he was part of the 9/11 action. Look at his stance on guns in new york. So, I have seriously considered moving out of America, I don't know for sure if I would do it but it is a option on the table. Don't even get me started on your Ron Paul sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Don't even get me started on your Ron Paul sig I'd like to hear your opinion. Not being an ass, just looking for different views. At this point in the game, I'm not sure who I'd vote for. Ron Paul sounds like a decent candidate, but I honestly haven't done too much research into any of the runners yet. And we all know, what they (politicians) say, and what they actually do are two entirely different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I'd like to hear your opinion. Not being an ass, just looking for different views. At this point in the game, I'm not sure who I'd vote for. Ron Paul sounds like a decent candidate, but I honestly haven't done too much research into any of the runners yet. And we all know, what they (politicians) say, and what they actually do are two entirely different things. I think it's funny that people believe in the promise that he would do away with these gov't agencies, yet effectively eliminating thousands of jobs and hurting the economy more than anything... but that is beside the point. I usually don't talk about Ron Paul issues much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Amsterdam. Hott hookers, and legal drugs. WIN! I could give two shits about the hookers, why pay for your shit? BUT LEGAL DRUGS! KICK ASS SITES! And then there is the rest of Europe to hit up. It would be vacation 24 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Then GTFO. Sorry Thorne, there is no love lost for someone who wants to move out of the country because of someone getting elected for 4 years. Hey, interesting thought I just had; congress essentially has more power than the president. Checks and balances are the win. All you fucking amazingly brilliant bush-haters seem to forget about that. Try blaming everyone that's wrong, not just the figurehead. Seriously, most of the bush-haters are so god damned retarded. Bush didn't do anything really without congressional approval. Yes, he did some. But, lest we forget, almost all decisions must be approved by our congress. This is my only post on the subject. I'll hand the rest over to the good Dr. Rick, and probably Scott too. Edit: My vote, for anyone who asks, would be for John McCaine. I feel he's what the country needs. Unfortunately, he won't make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I"m with Ron Paul, but I know you can't eliminate the government jobs there would just be way to many people without work at that point. Maybe eliminate the positions as people retire or something. Though I'd like to just have the president give them an email one day stating that they can all go home. I see no need for the huge complicated government that we've created over the last 100 years. As for Rudy and the others they get my vote if there nominated. Except for McCain. I'm sure that guy is a democrate. Not a liberial, but a democrate. Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Then GTFO. Sorry Thorne, there is no love lost for someone who wants to move out of the country because of someone getting elected for 4 years. Hey, interesting thought I just had; congress essentially has more power than the president. Checks and balances are the win. All you fucking amazingly brilliant bush-haters seem to forget about that. Try blaming everyone that's wrong, not just the figurehead. Seriously, most of the bush-haters are so god damned retarded. Bush didn't do anything really without congressional approval. Yes, he did some. But, lest we forget, almost all decisions must be approved by our congress. You're right and wrong. The country was set up so that Congress would have most of the power, but as much as people like to ignore it the Office of the President has changed as much in its role as much is it has in its staff. Teddy Roosevelt was the first guy to campaign for a much more aggressive presidential reign, and he did it without much support in Congress, which he despised. From what I've heard, Bush thought that the POTUS didn't have enough power and that a strong U.S. needed a strong leader, and therefore would take a strong stance, whatever the cost, to reassert Presidential superiority over Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Agreed. Not trying to say that either has absolute power. My post may not have come off the way I wanted. My main point is checks and balances. Whatever the strength of either branch, there is a balance. There is only so far the president or congress can take their power. Fortunately congress still can to a point, overpower the president (for the time being). That's why I said they "essentially" have more power. Your post should definitely be read as a supplement to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conesmasher Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 If Rudy get's office....here is what I will do: 1.) Thank God 1a.) ....That Hillary or Obama isn't in office 1b.) .....That Ron Paul wasn't elected The big fear is that Rudy will "take away guns" from everyone!! Like he did in New York, etc, etc. Well, Rudy has spoken about this on several occasions and informed the public that he felt that it was the states place to restrict these rights as they saw fit. I mean honestly, I feel like this is your campaign to get everyone to listen to "Ron Paul in '08".........and I think everyone else smells what the Thorne is cooking.....but Ron Paul is just too much Libertarian for the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeGT Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I'm serious on this topic. I've thought about it long and hard based on his mayor experiance and his backing of bush so heavenly and police state mind. Basicly you have someone that will yank Liberties faster then bush because he was part of the 9/11 action. Look at his stance on guns in new york. So, I have seriously considered moving out of America, I don't know for sure if I would do it but it is a option on the table. just vote for the goofball in your sig then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueG60rado Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I think if we all knew every detail about The Patriot Act and presidential directive 51 we would all be shitting our pants... Whether it is the fault of Bush or Congress is irrelevant. Our country is going to shit. Ever heard of the North American Union or the Amero? Oh and what the hell is up with open borders? Alberto Gonzales is quoted on CNN as saying the U.S. Constitution is quaint and outdated. He was a Bush aid before being nominated by Bush to be the attorney general. http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/19/leavitt.gonzales/ Both Gonzales and the entire Bush camp are making a huge push for centralized and expanded executive power and possible martial law, as evidenced by ppd 51. Oh and Congress did not review ppd 51 in its entirety before it was passed. How weird is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueG60rado Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 And I fully believe Guiliani will be as committed to fighting Israel's war as Bush currently is. I have no idea who I will vote for. Considering how much foreign financial controlling interest there is in our Government I'm not sure how much it really matters at this point. I would definitely not vote for Rudy Guliani or John Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I would vote for the girl in your sig.....:drool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conesmasher Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I would vote for the girl in your sig.....:drool: She does make reproduction sound like a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted September 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I think is funny you jump down ron paul but will back a tool. Go read on mister rudy, He is a huge bush supporter. He don't give a fuck about civil liberties. You think the president has no power. You sure of that, Why don't you go read the news a bit and get back with me. Hitlery sucks Obama is not all bad, I'm curious how many people hate him just because he's not white. Rudy so far has lied directly to people face on the campaign trail. He's not versed on any of the major intel doucment but durring the debate he quotes them like he's on ball and people clap. Yet Ron paul atleast read the docs. Ron paul's major feature is he wants a simplier goverment. Ya know you could argue that by becoming a police state we create more jobs. Where would I go? The candaian dolar looks good, As a cable engineer there are quite a few jobs for me up there. I'm not saying its what I will do for sure but I'm not down for being in more wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I would Run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted September 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I would Run. Lies, Your hefty jesus not fit jesus. I bet you waddle away at a medium pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Caxide/Hefty '08. try to stop us, i dare you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I'd thank god. Now if Hillary became president Id move to either Italy, Amsterdam or the Cayman Islands within 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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