greg1647545532 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 open spoilers I know I'm probably a little late to the party on a movie that opened 2 weeks ago or whatever, but I have a question. At the beginning of the movie, 3 DEA agents get murdered in the course of a robbery. The movie makes a big deal about how it wasn't Vin Diesel and Paul Walker, but everywhere in the US that wouldn't matter. Everyone involved in a crime is responsible for everything that happens during the crime, and everyone from the Brazilian bad guys to Dom to Spilner to Vince to Mia would be guilty of first degree murder in that situation. I don't know how the legal system works in Brazil, but in the states it's pretty clear cut. So right off the bat I'm feeling like these guys are murderers. Fast forward to the end, after a bunch more people get murdered in the middle thanks to these clowns trying to pull off "one last big score." They're dragging this 10 ton safe through the city, potentially murdering any number of civilians and generally being assholes about private property. Then they get to the bridge and instead of cutting the safe loose, they turn it around and proceed to murder the fuck out of a whole bunch of cops. I mean, you don't see anyone get murdered, but having a 10 ton safe smashed into your car at highway speeds is most likely going to kill you. At the very least, it's attempted murder. And yeah, they're "crooked cops," but it's not like they deserve to be murdered for that. They might not be happy with the system, but how's a rookie cop gonna change things? He's got kids at home and needs to put food on the table, so what's the big deal, right? Nope. Murdered. Safe to the face. And then the big twist at the end is that the safe was empty. Meaning they could have just cut it lose and driven away because they already had the fucking money. Meaning that not only are they both massive murderers, but none of those murders were even necessary for their plan to work. WTF!? Is anyone else bothered by this? Other than that the movie kicked ass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Sign Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 For those ten seconds or less im free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 It never bothers me seeing a cop go down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Given it's just a movie and make believe it doesn't bother me. Pure entertainment where cops get shot all the time. It bothers me more that kids on campus toss beer bottle at cops then whine like babies when the pepper spray and mace are broken out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhop Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 You do know it is a movie right? Its not educational. Its entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossle Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 It's fake? So...no, not bothered in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/14biggy/Secks/AMDISAPPOINT.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 open spoilers Get murdered, first degree murder, these guys are murderers. Fast forward to the end, get murdered, potentially murdering, proceed to murder, get murdered, kill you. It's attempted murder, deserve to be murdered. Nope. Murdered. massive murderers, those murders were even necessary. Thesaurus. Use one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I never looked at it that way. So now when people here talk about murders they have committed they can just say it happened in "Brazil". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I never looked at it that way. So now when people here talk about murders they have committed they can just say it happened in "Brazil". I don't like the phrase "murdered out". It's offensive to cars everywhere and really not necessary. Not to mention it's a bit racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 op you a cop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Fucks given, none. Common man its a movie, like anyone could pull a 10 ton safe with 2 Chargers out of a police station and down the streets at high speed, although I thought it was entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I'm willing to suspend disbelief for physics, but that's not the point. It'd be like if Luke Skywalker, just before attacking the Death Star, started robbing a bunch of people at light-saber-point and then murdering them after pocketing their wallets. And then to make it worse, you find out that the entire Rebel Alliance is on board with this. That's just their thing. They fight the empire and murder people for cash. It's in their charter or something. Would you still be cheering for him as he made the trench run? You're supposed to root for the protagonists, not question their morals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Cannot believe contents of thread, OP must be bored OUT OF HIS FUCKING MIND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I'm willing to suspend disbelief for physics, but that's not the point. It'd be like if Luke Skywalker, just before attacking the Death Star, started robbing a bunch of people at light-saber-point and then murdering them after pocketing their wallets. And then to make it worse, you find out that the entire Rebel Alliance is on board with this. That's just their thing. They fight the empire and murder people for cash. It's in their charter or something. Would you still be cheering for him as he made the trench run? You're supposed to root for the protagonists, not question their morals. I did mention a thesaurus earlier. You could still use one. If you don't have one, type your post in Word and use the synonyms feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Are you really super high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 It'd be like if Luke Skywalker, just before attacking the Death Star, started robbing a bunch of people at light-saber-point and then murdering them after pocketing their wallets. And then to make it worse, you find out that the entire Rebel Alliance is on board with this. That's just their thing. They fight the empire and murder people for cash. It's in their charter or something. You don't think any innocent people were on the Death Star when Luke blew it up. Twice! He was nothing but a terrorist and a murderer obsessed with his "force" religion. He was basically like a space bin laden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammit Charlie Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 This honestly ran through your head while watching a fictional movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Find anouther way home pizza boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Out of all the randomness, sometimes gayness, definite fakeness, and you take this serious enough to consider the writers think the movie should make sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 You don't think any innocent people were on the Death Star when Luke blew it up. Twice! He was nothing but a terrorist and a murderer obsessed with his "force" religion. He was basically like a space bin laden. Bullshit. The Death Star blew up Alderaan. Everyone on board was complicit in that act. Also, they were on their way to blow up the moon that the Rebels were hiding on, so it was self defense. Regrettable maybe, but no space Bin Laden. Also, murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99FLHRCI Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Bullshit. The Death Star blew up Alderaan. Everyone on board was complicit in that act. Also, they were on their way to blow up the moon that the Rebels were hiding on, so it was self defense. Regrettable maybe, but no space Bin Laden. Also, murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder Luke Skywalker might not be happy with the system, but how's a storm trooper gonna change things? He's got kids at home and needs to put food on the table, so what's the big deal, right? Nope. Murdered. Blown up Death Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I hate that you have my name and make Greg's everywhere look stupid.... That is all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Bullshit. The Death Star blew up Alderaan. Everyone on board was complicit in that act. Also, they were on their way to blow up the moon that the Rebels were hiding on, so it was self defense. Regrettable maybe, but no space Bin Laden. Terrorists think the people they kill are also complicit by living in the "system". Were there no cooks or janitors on the death star? What about the second time it was blown up while it was still under construction? How many innocent contractors lost their lives trying to feed their kids because osama skywalker thought they were infidels? I've always had a strong belief that the "rebels" were a bunch of murdering, space jihadist, "force" fanatical, child killers who just tried to give the empire a bad wrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Luke Skywalker might not be happy with the system, but how's a storm trooper gonna change things? He's got kids at home and needs to put food on the table, so what's the big deal, right? Nope. Murdered. Blown up Death Star. Lol, touche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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