2 Sweet Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Exactly the way I feel about a Focus. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Ford LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I just like how those who have bashed GM on the weight of their cars are blind to the fact that the Mustang actually weighs more now. Across the board GM has taken weight out of their cars (way past due in my opinion) and that fact seems to be overlooked right now. I am loving what they are doing - this will push Ford to step up again and that is good for everyone. On a related note, did you see the weight on the coming 2.0t? I,for one, require a V8 in this type of car but a turbo 4 powered, 3400 pound, rear drive coupe would be a great starting point for a fun car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I just like how those who have bashed GM on the weight of their cars are blind to the fact that the Mustang actually weighs more now. Across the board GM has taken weight out of their cars (way past due in my opinion) and that fact seems to be overlooked right now. I am loving what they are doing - this will push Ford to step up again and that is good for everyone. On a related note, did you see the weight on the coming 2.0t? I,for one, require a V8 in this type of car but a turbo 4 powered, 3400 pound, rear drive coupe would be a great starting point for a fun car. Amen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I just like how those who have bashed GM on the weight of their cars are blind to the fact that the Mustang actually weighs more now. Across the board GM has taken weight out of their cars (way past due in my opinion) and that fact seems to be overlooked right now. I am loving what they are doing - this will push Ford to step up again and that is good for everyone. On a related note, did you see the weight on the coming 2.0t? I,for one, require a V8 in this type of car but a turbo 4 powered, 3400 pound, rear drive coupe would be a great starting point for a fun car. Who is denying weighing less is a good thing? It went from about 100lbs heavier to 100lbs lighter. The right direction for sure. And besides the Camaro and CTS-V each pulling about 150lbs out, what is getting lighter. It certainly isn't the Corvette Z06... The ATS-V is heavy, the CTS-V is still heavy, the Z06 is heavy... And I'd argue Ford is doing more to push Chevy, than the other way around. And I couldn't care less about one or the other. I bought the car for me, and will continue to. If only VW made a Mustang/Camaro Competitor, I'd buy that. It wouldn't be a flaming pile of fail in the quality department. It'd just pollute more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Only one you mention that I agree with is the CTSv but it has become a large car. The ATS is 3400-3500 in normal form - 3700 in full V form with the upgraded wheels, body package, brakes and motor. That is not a heavy sedan (note that it is lighter than the Mustang too). The Vette is 3500-3600 pounds in fully loaded Z06 trim. What should it way in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Only one you mention that I agree with is the CTSv but it has become a large car. The ATS is 3400-3500 in normal form - 3700 in full V form with the upgraded wheels, body package, brakes and motor. That is not a heavy sedan (note that it is lighter than the Mustang too). The Vette is 3500-3600 pounds in fully loaded Z06 trim. What should it way in your opinion? Actually the ATS-V weighs 3,803 to 3,812lbs depending on coupe vs sedan. And no, that is more or about the same as the mustang, which is larger. Z06 is now a heavy car. The C6 Z06 was 3,200lbs. That's a considerable weight increase, 10%... The ATS isn't selling, so, it could weigh 3000lbs and nobody would care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 The ATS isn't selling, so, it could weigh 3000lbs and nobody would care. I would care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Actually the ATS-V weighs 3,803 to 3,812lbs depending on coupe vs sedan. 3800 lbs LOL that's as heavy as a 1980s tech, full-size, AWD, iron-block luxury turbo car. EL-OH-EL Well hopefully with all that power and weight it can lap the road course faster than a 911 and tow more than a f150 longrodhornram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 3800 lbs LOL that's as heavy as a 1980s tech, full-size, AWD, iron-block luxury turbo car. EL-OH-EL Well hopefully with all that power and weight it can lap the road course faster than a 911 and tow more than a f150 longrodhornram If we need to explain to you why they weigh more now perhaps you are on the wrong site Everything I have read has said 3700 pounds in the ATSv. The key is they want it to be a luxury car that can shred the track at the same time. That takes a lot of chassis stiffening and equipment (huge breaks, special dampers, etc). Tack on all of the electronics we cannot do without and all of the safety equipment and I think they did well on weight. Looks at the lateral g and slalom times the ATSv and Camaro are putting up - they are crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Exactly the way I feel about a Focus. +1 +2 Focus lol fwd lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I just like how those who have bashed GM on the weight of their cars are blind to the fact that the Mustang actually weighs more now. Across the board GM has taken weight out of their cars (way past due in my opinion) and that fact seems to be overlooked right now. I am loving what they are doing - this will push Ford to step up again and that is good for everyone. On a related note, did you see the weight on the coming 2.0t? I,for one, require a V8 in this type of car but a turbo 4 powered, 3400 pound, rear drive coupe would be a great starting point for a fun car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 If we need to explain to you why they weigh more now perhaps you are on the wrong site Everything I have read has said 3700 pounds in the ATSv. Well, Cadillac quotes the curb weights I posted so...take it up with them, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/ZE73jIX.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Just putting up some additional weight numbers. Camaro 1SS: 3660 Mustang GT PP base: 3730 70lb difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 2016 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack Manual Coupe Curb weight: 4,082 lbs :gabe::lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robochan Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Just putting up some additional weight numbers. Camaro 1SS: 3660 Mustang GT PP base: 3730 70lb difference. Yall need to go on a diet. Me in the mustang and you in the camaro makes the mustang lighter. :ninja: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Are we really nit-picking about the weight of a car (ats-v) that trounced the m3 and amg Benz in every performance category in a recent head to head test, and also came within a tenth (or maybe even beat, I can't remember) of a 458 Italia in the slalom, and short road course?? Yet is a four door family hauler, with likely 100+ hp left on the table with a flash??? What the fuck is wrong with peoples' expectations these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFo Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Are we really nit-picking about the weight of a car (ats-v) that trounced the m3 and amg Benz in every performance category in a recent head to head test, and also came within a tenth (or maybe even beat, I can't remember) of a 458 Italia in the slalom, and short road course?? Yet is a four door family hauler, with likely 100+ hp left on the table with a flash??? What the fuck is wrong with peoples' expectations these days? They be taters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grudes Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 We got a Gen6 SS in last week finally and they do look better in person. Personally I love the was the front looks. The back end doesn't look much different. Sitting in it, the visibility was about the same as a Gen 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/XDPvg18.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Impossible. It is only 70 pounds lighter than a Mustang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Camaro owners in Columbus are the worst. They make little cliques and try to feel exclusive. I have no dog in this fight. 100% unbiased opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFo Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Camaro owners in Columbus are the worst. They make little cliques and try to feel exclusive. I have no dog in this fight. 100% unbiased opinion DEM LED lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Impossible. It is only 70 pounds lighter than a Mustang! You're dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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