College Football 2016/17

[LJ]

If I were on the committee my playoff teams would be

1. Bama

2. Ohio State

3. Clemson

4. Wisconsin (if they beat PSU)

 

Avoid a rematch unless it is the title, potential Bama matchup. That's where I would go.

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

I think if Michigan had won against Iowa, both they and Ohio State would've gotten in. You'd have a Bama/Michigan match up and an Ohio State/Clemson game in the semi's. Could've ultimately set up a NC rematch between Michigan and Ohio State which would've been ratings through the roof.

[oh8sti]

See I like the four team playoff. It makes weekends like last weekend so amazing. With an 8 team playoff it makes losing ok where's with four teams it literally can end your season with one loss and to who that loss was.

 

Josh you have presented my point in a good way. Thanks for your detailed posts.

 

Alabama was very close to finding itself in this same situation....

 

 

I bet you'd be singing a different tune if bama was clearly one of the top 4 teams in the country.

 

You can't tell me B1G isn't the strongest conference when we have so many good teams. PSU just isn't one of them. We do NOT want them representing our conference on the national level. They would get crushed.

Edited November 15, 2016 by Panduh

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Ohio State was one of the top 4 teams last year in my opinion but were left out. They were definitely a better team than Michigan State, they just had a real shitty day at the office, similar to the PSU game this year.

[BStowers023]

It literally will come down to "4 most deserving" or "best 4 teams." If it's the most deserving I can see OSU being left out based on a technicality which is fucking retarded in my opinion, but if it's the best 4 teams like it should be then OSU should be in.

 

Do you not think the committee has it looming in the back of their mind that they picked the wrong B1G team last year? *Cough cough 38-0 snore fest cough cough* Not saying they had much of a choice but I think everyone knew that if they threw MSU and OSU on a neutral field last year in a dome, OSU would have took them to the wood shed. This year the committee will have an argument to put OSU in over a 2 loss Wisconsin or Penn State team from the B1G if it came down to just letting one B1G team in. I think the committee knows if they put Penn State or Wisconsin in at the 4 slot and they have to play Bama it's gonna be another annihilation and I just don't think they make the same mistake twice.

[Lauren]

I think the blockbuster games in the start of the season need to take place in the middle to near end of the season going forward. The USC team that's playing right now isn't the USC team that Bama destroyed to start the season. I would much rather see teams that have found their identity and have half a season under their belt playing these marquee match ups the Oklohoma team OSU played isn't the same team playing right now. That same argument goes for every team who is in college football right now.

 

Also if a team was to lose late in the season by a non conference foe atleast it wouldn't come at a price for not winning your conference. OSU 2014 VT didn't leave them out of the B1G champions ha game where past two seasons their trip up have come against b1g schools.

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

The SEC would never go for that, they are too busy scheduling FCS opponents to end their seasons

[2 Sweet]

Shouldn't one of the top four teams be a conference champion? I mean if you can't even win your conference why should you be allowed to play for a national title.

 

I think Bon conference losses are much better the. Conference losses.

 

If Florida beats Alabama by one point in the SEC title game, should Alabama be excluded from the playoff?

[Lauren]

If Florida beats Alabama by one point in the SEC title game, should Alabama be excluded from the playoff?

 

Yes. You get rewarded in life for success not failure.

[BStowers023]

If Florida beats Alabama by one point in the SEC title game, should Alabama be excluded from the playoff?

 

Yes. You get rewarded in life for success not failure.

 

Lauren says that knowing 1) It won't happen and 2) If it did happen they would still get in.

 

So should Alabama's 2011 National Championship count? They didn't even win their division, let alone their conference... and at that time there were only 2 teams allowed to have a shot at playing for the NC.

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

So after all that shake up this weekend, only 1 team that lost really lost..

 

1. Alabama

2. Ohio State

3. Michigan

4. Clemson

 

Washington fell to 6 which is still with in striking distance.

 

LSU jumped up 8 spots to 16, they basically traded spots with Texas A&M LOL

[jeffro]

This just goes to show that the winner of michigan/osu is in. Loser drops to 6th and is out of the race

[caseyctsv]

...assuming OSU beats MSU

[airwg2189]

I think the blockbuster games in the start of the season need to take place in the middle to near end of the season going forward. The USC team that's playing right now isn't the USC team that Bama destroyed to start the season. I would much rather see teams that have found their identity and have half a season under their belt playing these marquee match ups the Oklohoma team OSU played isn't the same team playing right now. That same argument goes for every team who is in college football right now.

 

Also if a team was to lose late in the season by a non conference foe atleast it wouldn't come at a price for not winning your conference. OSU 2014 VT didn't leave them out of the B1G champions ha game where past two seasons their trip up have come against b1g schools.

 

I actually agree. Chattanooga should be the first game of the season, so Alabama can start 0-1. Of course, if we pushed schedules like that, I think a lot of schools would be more hesitant to play blockbuster matchups like that.

[BStowers023]

I actually agree. Chattanooga should be the first game of the season, so Alabama can start 0-1. Of course, if we pushed schedules like that, I think a lot of schools would be more hesitant to play blockbuster matchups like that.

 

In fairness to Lauren, Bama did schedule USC for the first game of the year while we played Bowling Green

[BStowers023]

I think the playoff committee set Ohio State up knowing what's ahead. I'm not saying that because Ohio State is #2, well partly because they are #2 but mainly because Michigan stayed at #3. They know there is no way they can drop OSU down from #2 to #5 if they finish their season with a win against #3 Michigan. I have a lot of confidence now that if OSU wins out, we're in.

 

I honestly think Clemson is getting too much credit and Washington isn't getting enough credit. Clemson SHOULD have 2 losses. They should have lost to NC State if they had a remotely competent kicker. I mean it's not like Clemson blocked their FG and returned it for a TD to win, the dude just straight up shanked a 27 yard straight away game winning FG. Clemson's D is no good and they will get ROCKED by tOSU or Bama in the playoffs if they play. Washington scares me more because tOSU and even Bama don't really face teams that can really sling the ball around like they can, but then again, last time we played a team like that (Oregon) we put it to them.

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

In fairness to Lauren, Bama did schedule USC for the first game of the year while we played Bowling Green

 

And then played Oklahoma... OSU has done a great job scheduling marquee opponents. The proboem sometimes is a team sucks 10 years after you schedule them (Cal, Va Tech).

[Orion]

And then played Oklahoma... OSU has done a great job scheduling marquee opponents. The proboem sometimes is a team sucks 10 years after you schedule them (Cal, Va Tech).

 

Just a reminder that the Va. Tech team that sucked beat us in our own house. We overcame, but that did actually happen.

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

I know, I was at that game haha. That home/home series was scheduled in 2002, Va Tech went 10-4 in 2002, 2014 they were 7-6. So you really have no idea just how good/bad a team is going to be when you schedule those type of big game match ups. You just hope that a school can remain decent that long.

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Saw this posted on 11W and found it interesting. For all the hate the BCS received, the mock sure looks eerily similar to playoff committee's picks (they just have Washington/Wisconsin flipped)

"BCS" RANKINGS, WEEK 11

RANK TEAM BCS AVERAGE

1 Alabama 1.00000

2 Ohio State 0.95443

3 Michigan 0.86775

4 Clemson 0.86397

5 Louisville 0.85672

6 Wisconsin 0.78255

7 Washington 0.77322

8 Penn State 0.61540

9 Oklahoma 0.60865

10 West Virginia 0.54480

 

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curBcsLike.html

 

These come out before the CFP selection is known. Interesting to look back at week 9 and see this (On the very far right is what they considered their best victory):

1. Alabama 1.018370 8-0 0.647959: 3 2 6 W: #4 Texas A&M

2. Clemson 0.991946 8-0 0.614933: 12 4 5 W: #11 Louisville

3. Michigan 0.939560 8-0 0.549450: 34 3 3 W: #9 Penn St

4. Texas A&M 0.887924 7-1 0.609906: 13 2 3 W: #13 Auburn

5. Ohio St 0.872586 7-1 0.590732: 18 2 4 W: #10 Wisconsin

6. Washington 0.855981 8-0 0.444976: 110 1 2 W: #22 Utah

 

 

After 2 weeks it was:

1. Texas 0.781690 2-0 0.563381: 44 0 1 W: #49 UTEP

2. Alabama 0.768720 2-0 0.537440: 53 0 0 W: #55 USC

3. Washington 0.767948 2-0 0.535897: 54 0 0 W: #53 Idaho

4. Tennessee 0.767480 2-0 0.534960: 56 0 0 W: #56 Appalachian St

5. Colorado 0.765268 2-0 0.530537: 63 0 0 W: #52 Colorado St

6. Ohio St 0.764832 2-0 0.529663: 65 0 0 W: #51 Tulsa

7. Wisconsin 0.760661 2-0 0.521321: 72 0 0 W: #66 LSU

8. Nebraska 0.759642 2-0 0.519284: 77 0 0 W: #67 Fresno St

9. Clemson 0.758921 2-0 0.517842: 78 0 0 W: #68 Troy

10. Arizona St 0.757909 2-0 0.515819: 79 0 0 W: #71 Texas Tech

 

3 weeks had: 1. Ohio St 0.824539 3-0 0.540898: 49 0 1 W: #37 Tulsa

2. Texas A&M 0.824020 3-0 0.540033: 52 0 1 W: #40 UCLA

3. Nebraska 0.817088 3-0 0.528480: 59 0 0 W: #57 Wyoming

4. Arkansas 0.815424 3-0 0.525707: 61 0 0 W: #55 TCU

5. Houston 0.806724 3-0 0.511206: 68 0 0 W: #51 Cincinnati

6. Wisconsin 0.805931 3-0 0.509886: 70 0 1 W: #41 LSU

7. Tennessee 0.803603 3-0 0.506005: 73 0 1 W: #50 Virginia Tech

8. Alabama 0.800029 3-0 0.500049: 79 0 0 W: #64 West Kentucky

9. Louisville 0.791096 3-0 0.485160: 88 0 1 W: #47 Florida St

10. Michigan 0.779734 3-0 0.466223: 102 0 1 W: #44 Colorado

 

4th week:

1. Tennessee 0.921389 4-0 0.632084: 10 0 3 W: #27 Florida

2. Texas A&M 0.882848 4-0 0.574272: 26 1 1 W: #24 Arkansas

3. Clemson 0.859414 4-0 0.539120: 43 0 2 W: #31 Georgia Tech

4. Michigan 0.842367 4-0 0.513550: 62 0 1 W: #29 Colorado

5. Stanford 0.830344 3-0 0.550574: 39 0 1 W: #45 Kansas St

6. Wisconsin 0.827329 4-0 0.490994: 82 0 1 W: #49 Michigan St

7. Louisville 0.824872 4-0 0.487308: 84 1 1 W: #25 Florida St

8. Houston 0.819713 4-0 0.479570: 92 0 1 W: #39 Cincinnati

9. Wake Forest 0.814373 4-0 0.471560: 96 0 1 W: #42 Indiana

10. Alabama 0.811340 4-0 0.467010: 98 0 1 W: #50 Mississippi

11. Ohio St 0.805657 3-0 0.509428: 67 0 1 W: #35 Tulsa

 

5th:

 

1. Tennessee 0.968035 5-0 0.655248: 5 1 4 W: #22 Florida

2. Michigan 0.950829 5-0 0.631160: 9 2 4 W: #15 Wisconsin

3. Clemson 0.945218 5-0 0.623305: 13 2 4 W: #18 Troy

4. Texas A&M 0.901237 5-0 0.561731: 32 1 3 W: #19 Arkansas

5. Alabama 0.856013 5-0 0.498418: 74 0 1 W: #34 Mississippi

6. W Michigan 0.841586 5-0 0.478221: 90 0 1 W: #28 Georgia Southern

7. Ohio St 0.833856 4-0 0.500784: 72 0 1 W: #43 Tulsa

8. Houston 0.831097 5-0 0.463535: 102 0 0 W: #52 Oklahoma

9. Washington 0.825020 5-0 0.455028: 108 1 1 W: #17 Stanford

10. West Virginia 0.823489 4-0 0.485233: 84 0 0 W: #63 Kansas St

 

6th:

1. Michigan 0.953679 6-0 0.604905: 10 2 4 W: #12 Wisconsin

2. Texas A&M 0.949022 6-0 0.598696: 11 1 3 W: #5 Tennessee

3. Clemson 0.933758 6-0 0.578344: 22 2 3 W: #15 Louisville

4. Alabama 0.920900 6-0 0.561200: 35 0 3 W: #26 Mississippi

5. Tennessee 0.907379 5-1 0.709839: 1 2 4 W: #18 Virginia Tech

6. Ohio St 0.879402 5-0 0.531163: 50 0 3 W: #39 Tulsa

7. W Michigan 0.833830 6-0 0.445107: 108 0 0 W: #52 Cent Michigan

8. Washington 0.829166 6-0 0.438888: 111 0 1 W: #34 Stanford

9. West Virginia 0.819806 4-0 0.479710: 82 0 0 W: #54 BYU

10. Boise St 0.817755 5-0 0.444857: 109 0 1 W: #48 Washington St

 

7th:

1. Alabama 0.967401 7-0 0.600943: 14 2 4 W: #10 Tennessee

2. Clemson 0.956621 7-0 0.587085: 24 3 5 W: #14 Louisville

3. Texas A&M 0.941982 6-0 0.589310: 22 3 3 W: #10 Tennessee

4. Michigan 0.925305 6-0 0.567074: 32 2 3 W: #24 Penn St

5. Ohio St 0.911716 6-0 0.548955: 41 1 3 W: #25 Wisconsin

6. W Michigan 0.874495 7-0 0.481493: 87 0 1 W: #42 Cent Michigan

7. Boise St 0.859499 6-0 0.479332: 88 0 1 W: #29 Washington St

8. Nebraska 0.857480 6-0 0.476640: 90 0 1 W: #40 Wyoming

9. Washington 0.847300 6-0 0.463066: 97 0 1 W: #28 Stanford

10. Tennessee 0.832458 5-2 0.713161: 1 1 3 W: #16 Florida

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Week 8

 

1. Alabama 1.005610 8-0 0.632015: 9 2 5 W: #6 Texas A&M

2. Clemson 0.959212 7-0 0.590415: 22 3 5 W: #12 Louisville

3. Michigan 0.955312 7-0 0.585401: 23 3 3 W: #13 Penn St

4. Boise St 0.904857 7-0 0.520531: 50 1 1 W: #24 Washington St

5. W Michigan 0.898741 8-0 0.498426: 68 0 0 W: #51 East Michigan

6. Texas A&M 0.881195 6-1 0.632965: 8 2 3 W: #9 Tennessee

7. West Virginia 0.870836 6-0 0.494448: 74 0 0 W: #54 BYU

8. Nebraska 0.853179 7-0 0.454087: 102 0 1 W: #41 Wyoming

9. Tennessee 0.842134 5-2 0.725600: 1 1 3 W: #15 Florida

10. Ohio St 0.833122 6-1 0.571156: 25 1 3 W: #18 Wisconsin

 

Boise State and W. Michigan are getting mad love from the computers, just not the humans

[BStowers023]

If conference championships are the end all be all, then I don't even know why we have human rankings. Might as well just keep the BCS rankings and use the top 4 conference champions, regardless of who is ahead. Because like Lauren said, beating an unranked Virginia Tech to win your conference championship is extremely impressive and should warrant you getting into the playoff even if the rest of your schedule is complete trash and you lost to an unranked team at home.

 

 

P.S. I hope this is why they created a committee to prevent things like this from happening. If Ohio State gets left out in place of Washington or Clemson, I'll have no hope for the playoff committee moving forward to pick the actual 4 best teams anymore.

[Lauren]

Listen guys I'm not trolling here ok. Ohio state is 9-1. 5 of those games that were blow outs were against garbage teams( yes Nebraska is a garbage team). It's very easy to run up the score against teams like Maryland, Rutgers, and whatever else Mac schools they opened against. However the 5 other teams that had any sort of quality players and it was extremely close. They went 4-1 against teams with a pulse. The Wisconsin game and northwestern game could have easily gone the other way. They did a fine job man handling Oklohoma at the start of the season so I'll give credit to where credit is due.

 

They have look brilliant against lesser teams, just like I expected Bama to look brilliant against Chattanooga this weekend.

 

Ohio state hasn't been consistent all year. It's easy to get caught up in the hype machine when they shut out Rutgers and ring up a bunch of points.

 

Oh and check out some the the schedules of teams they have wins against. Wisconsin and Oklohoma are the only good wins Ohio st has. The rest are garbage teams.

[BStowers023]

Okay, so Ohio State has played a bunch of garbage teams and blown them out. Let's hear who Alabama has blown out that is quality since Nebraska and Oklahoma don't qualify.

 

USC - First game of the year, they have a new QB and their offense has been overhauled since (but good win, winning the way you're supposed to regardless).

 

Ole Miss - TRASH and barely won

 

Arkansas - Garbage, lost to Auburn 56-3 and LSU 38-10 :lolguy:

 

Tennessee - Complete Joke not even worth explaining

 

Texas A&M - :lolguy:

 

LSU - Solid but Alabama only managed to rack up 10 points against them

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

I'd say OSU/Bama have identical schedules once you break it down

 

Wisconsin beat LSU

Oklahoma is on par if not better than USC

Nebraska is better than Arkansas

Northwestern is on par with Tennessee

Tulsa would give Ole Miss a run for their money if not beat them

 

Michigan is better than anyone Bama has faced, assuming OSU wins this