Mallard Posted January 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If not AWD then why? Hmmmm what does the Challenger need? Oh I got it, let's make it wider! Reading AllPar rumors, it sounds as if there are two versions coming. One for straights, one that can turn too. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Base Challenger, not even. 63.7 in for both (2LT vs SRT) in rear track width. The 2SS is a little narrower, couldn't find new ZL1. The Demon is 'a bit' wider, and that's mostly because they can't fit more tire in the fender well. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Guys - comparing the Challenger to another fatass car does not make a wide body version of the Challenger make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Guys - comparing the Challenger to another fatass car does not make a wide body version of the Challenger make more sense. It does if it is one of those competition only cars like the COPO Camaro, Dodge Drag Pak, or the Mustang Cobra Jet and won't see road use. As I understand it a 10" tire is the largest tire you can get under the rear of a new challenger so a wide body to fit a larger tire makes a lot of sense as a "Drag Pak" replacement (even if it does exclude the car from NMCA Factory Super Car classes). All this is kind of moot since the pic shows a huge 20" wheel spinning in a fender flare so I somehow doubt this is where they are going with it. There are already aftermarket kits for wide-bodies so I guess there is a need for it, esp with the tire clearance issue. Food for thought - anybody else don't get why the factory competition cars don't run Hellcat/ZL1/Shelby drive-trains? I get the class rules limit engine size to below 6.0L but the class was built for these cars to run it - couldn't they just amend the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 It does if it is one of those competition only cars like the COPO Camaro, Dodge Drag Pak, or the Mustang Cobra Jet and won't see road use. As I understand it a 10" tire is the largest tire you can get under the rear of a new challenger so a wide body to fit a larger tire makes a lot of sense as a "Drag Pak" replacement (even if it does exclude the car from NMCA Factory Super Car classes). All this is kind of moot since the pic shows a huge 20" wheel spinning in a fender flare so I somehow doubt this is where they are going with it. There are already aftermarket kits for wide-bodies so I guess there is a need for it, esp with the tire clearance issue. Food for thought - anybody else don't get why the factory competition cars don't run Hellcat/ZL1/Shelby drive-trains? I get the class rules limit engine size to below 6.0L but the class was built for these cars to run it - couldn't they just amend the rules? That would actually be cool to see the production drivetrains in them. If they are really limited to a 10" wide tire (I have 11" wide wheels on my Camaro so know they fit - might even be able to go 12") that makes sense but you would have to assume there are other ways to accomplish it. it will all come down to how much it is and how much it improves the performance. I am sure it will look cool - I Love the Challenger's styling until you put it next to another car- then it looks cartoonish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Is only a inch wider than a Camaro. LOL To some folks an inch wider makes a world of difference. And Geeto, for some reason the fake demon pic made me smirk a little, so there's that. I still don't read all your long ass posts, but that was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Circulating today... Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 There is a "Racing Fuel" button below the touch screen. Sounds like ridiculous power numbers are coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 And Geeto, for some reason the fake demon pic made me smirk a little, so there's that. I still don't read all your long ass posts, but that was good. I'll take any progress I can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I'm liking the bulging fenders. And props to FCA for breathing continued life into the Challenger/Charger platform with these special packages that keep the existing bodystyle alive. Very good way of using marketing to save/delay R&D costs. Reminded by Jalopnik that a Challenger Hellcat is 4,500lbs. Whoof. A 200lb diet is definitely in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I wish I did not like the looks of these cars as much as I do . Dodge does marketing build up better than any of the other domestics. I miss the GM commercials like the one they had for the WS6... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I wish I did not like the looks of these cars as much as I do . Dodge does marketing build up better than any of the other domestics. I miss the GM commercials like the one they had for the WS6... This was always my favorite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 01.26.2017 , Auburn Hills, Mich. Where there’s smoke, there’s tire. This fact will be confirmed when the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon roars into its New York City debut in April, ahead of the New York International Auto Show. The third teaser video, unlocked January 26, reveals that the Challenger SRT Demon rolls on upgraded lightweight 18 x 11-inch wheels and “Demon Branded” 315/40R18 Nitto NT05R tires front and rear, making Demon the first-ever factory production car built with drag radials. The new “Demon Branded” Nitto NT05R drag radial tires were specifically designed and developed exclusively for the Dodge Challenger SRT Demon using a new compound and specific tire construction. The new Challenger Demon wide-body is laser clearanced, and the entire chassis is e-coated for durability before final assembly. The combination of the 11-inch-wide wheels, high-profile drag radials and integrated fender flares adds 3.5 inches to the overall width of the Challenger SRT Demon for an intimidating, purposeful stance. Fans should visit http://www.ifyouknowyouknow.com to binge on the 27-second “Wide Body” video multiple times, along with other teaser videos, to learn about what’s next from Dodge and SRT. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Any clues on the meaning behind the license plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Any clues on the meaning behind the license plate? It's a hint for something, but your guess is as good as mine. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Any clues on the meaning behind the license plate? One theory seen in the forums is that 35 in Hg = 17.2 psi, so they think it means a 2576 cc s/c @ 17.2 psi. Stock Hellcat is a 2380 cc s/c @ 11.6 psi. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 one suggestion I read was that it was the finance payment, indicating about a $90K retail price. If so, that's a pretty good deal for a car that will be more powerful than a hellcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 One theory seen in the forums is that 35 in Hg = 17.2 psi, so they think it means a 2576 cc s/c @ 17.2 psi. Stock Hellcat is a 2380 cc s/c @ 11.6 psi. That makes sense. They keep pushing the SC Whine in the videos too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 That makes sense. They keep pushing the SC Whine in the videos too. The car is ridiculously loud. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 The next video came out today The car comes with a crate the has 18 components that maximize the Demon's flexibility, exclusivity, and collectability. This includes Demon Branded track tools, matching spare wheels (skinnies for the front), and Demon Track Pack System. Each crate has a personalized plate. Some are already claiming the numbers on the plate are a hint at 757 ft lbs and 1121 HP...but who knows. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Tom Coddington was a Chrysler Engineer and part of the factory backed Ramchargers drag racing team in the 1960s. Nice tribute, surprised they didn't go with Tom Hoover though. This thing is shaping up to be pretty insane. After hearing it will come with one seat, I was worried it would end up as a track only car like the COPO and Cobra Jet, but it seems like they've figured out a way to make it a legal street/strip animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Tom Coddington was a Chrysler Engineer and part of the factory backed Ramchargers drag racing team in the 1960s. Nice tribute, surprised they didn't go with Tom Hoover though. This thing is shaping up to be pretty insane. After hearing it will come with one seat, I was worried it would end up as a track only car like the COPO and Cobra Jet, but it seems like they've figured out a way to make it a legal street/strip animal. Sounds like the one seat thing is somewhat optional, if you believe AllPar. Sounds like you'll be able to check a box for a passenger seat. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I agree. Once the news came out, a lot of news outlets really focused on that, but I assume the passenger seat will be an option. I'm sure a strong majority of the cars sold will see very little track use. I think the tool box idea is pretty neat, but definitely won't help keep the costs down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I agree. Once the news came out, a lot of news outlets really focused on that, but I assume the passenger seat will be an option. I'm sure a strong majority of the cars sold will see very little track use. I think the tool box idea is pretty neat, but definitely won't help keep the costs down. Everything I've heard is it will be very limited in numbers and higher in price. Not sure if it will command more than $90k, but I assume the $70-80k range is an easy assumption. I think there will be ones that see the track and others that only see Cars and Coffee parking lots. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 That new video was me working on cars... lift hood, pull out some random tools, look at what I'm trying to accomplish, close hood walk away and call someone else to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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