fusion Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 If my life is in danger yes.Or if the robber is holding the line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 rob me, bitch. I fucking dare you.i'm always packing. it also keeps my arms warm during winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Your lucky you got bear arms I just got the hair on my back and chest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Its only gross cause its true. I'll trim it come spring with the weed trimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Its only gross cause its true. I'll trim it come spring with the weed trimmer.If you got hair that bad that might not do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Your lucky you got bear arms I just got the hair on my back and chest That's so fucking gross. Solution: Its only gross cause its true. I'll trim it come spring with the weed trimmer.No, no, no. You'll just gum up the works, dummy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 say you come out of the bathroom at a gas station and its being robbed....and your carrying....say you shoot the robber---then what? you go to jail? i plan to get my ccw just so I can throw my guns & ammo in the front of my vehicle when I go somewhere. Ohio's gun laws are loopy.You can only use deadly force against a threat to your life or an innocents life. You cannot use deadly force to protect property. You'd also better be sure the guy robbing the place or pointing a gun at someone is the bad guy. First impressions can be deceiving. Download the concealed carry booklet from the Ohio AG website. Get into the firearms forum on here and go to the "Firearm Reference Thread" It's stickied. There's some information and links in there you should read up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 You can only use deadly force against a threat to your life or an innocents life. You cannot use deadly force to protect property. You'd also better be sure the guy robbing the place or pointing a gun at someone is the bad guy. First impressions can be deceiving. Download the concealed carry booklet from the Ohio AG website. Get into the firearms forum on here and go to the "Firearm Reference Thread" It's stickied. There's some information and links in there you should read up on.Also, watch the shows on Spike channel that are on Sat mornings, I believe @ 9:00. I have them recording on TiVo. Lots of good info, and tactics for those that carry, or plan to carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I'd shoot the guy open carrying, empty his pockets, and make sure he had his gun in his hand before I called the cops.Of course none of that matters. You can't pull a gun fast enough to defend yourself most of the time anyway. People who rely on their gun as first line of defense are only kidding themselves.Agreed. I also know my boot can break bones and tear ligaments. My knee can make noodles shoot out of your ass. Knowing you can do these things has kept me cool and in the moment when I've been in situations. And yes I've been in situations. This new gun carry thing is just another tool in the arsenal. Also a nice folder has been added. I think I can get that out,opened and inserted quicker than digging for a grip under a sweatshirt. Now make with the knife/fist Vs gunfight argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Agreed. I also know my boot can break bones and tear ligaments. My knee can make noodles shoot out of your ass. Knowing you can do these things has kept me cool and in the moment when I've been in situations. And yes I've been in situations. This new gun carry thing is just another tool in the arsenal. Also a nice folder has been added. I think I can get that out,opened and inserted quicker than digging for a grip under a sweatshirt. Now make with the knife/fist Vs gunfight argument. I'll start:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckOULenKxiQ&playnext=1&list=PLB36AC34F9F22A2F0&index=37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Some people don't have the capabilities to fight h2h or the correct training. One important thing is Situational awareness , If you are aware of whats happening around you then it is easier to prepare for or avoid trouble.You can only use deadly force against a threat to your life or an innocents life. You cannot use deadly force to protect property. +1 If anyone wants further info Look up disparity of force Edited January 19, 2011 by eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I open carry all the time under my jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Agreed. I also know my boot can break bones and tear ligaments. My knee can make noodles shoot out of your ass. Knowing you can do these things has kept me cool and in the moment when I've been in situations. And yes I've been in situations. This new gun carry thing is just another tool in the arsenal. Also a nice folder has been added. I think I can get that out,opened and inserted quicker than digging for a grip under a sweatshirt. Now make with the knife/fist Vs gunfight argument. That's awesome to hear if you have prepared. Most don't. There's very few of us that carry and have any kind of hand-to-hand or defense training at all.I've always found it interesting that those so dead set on guns as a must have for self defense never pursue other means of training for the defense of themselves and others. Especially once you consider that inside 20+ feet or so you can't draw and fire fast enough to stop a charging assailant or attacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Some people don't have the capabilities to fight h2h or the correct training. That statement is complete bullshit. If you can draw, aim and fire a weapon to hit a target, you can learn enough self defense/hand-to-hand to make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 That statement is complete bullshit. If you can draw, aim and fire a weapon to hit a target, you can learn enough self defense/hand-to-hand to make a difference.With h2h people are less likely to make a physical confrontation fearing their attacker will out weigh them or endangering the entire party they are with. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Agreed. I also know my boot can break bones and tear ligaments. My knee can make noodles shoot out of your ass. Knowing you can do these things has kept me cool and in the moment when I've been in situations. And yes I've been in situations. This new gun carry thing is just another tool in the arsenal. Also a nice folder has been added. I think I can get that out,opened and inserted quicker than digging for a grip under a sweatshirt. Now make with the knife/fist Vs gunfight argument. Are you saying you are going to bring a knife to a gun fight.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Are you saying you are going to bring a knife to a gun fight....I think he's saying that he could kick your ass with a knife before you would have a chance to draw on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 He is old and slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I think he's saying that he could kick your ass with a knife before you would have a chance to draw on him. Keep em comin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 That statement is complete bullshit. If you can draw, aim and fire a weapon to hit a target, you can learn enough self defense/hand-to-hand to make a difference.So I guy in a wheelchair who knows how to shoot well can still can still kick ass h2h ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 So I guy in a wheelchair who knows how to shoot well can still can still kick ass h2h ? As long as its not a dance competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 So I guy in a wheelchair who knows how to shoot well can still can still kick ass h2h ? I've seen plenty of people (men, women, kids,...) in wheel chairs take self defense classes. Add to that what I said was "...you can learn enough self defense/hand-to-hand to make a difference.". I think you've been watching too many Ninja Turtle movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've seen plenty of people (men, women, kids,...) in wheel chairs take self defense classes. Add to that what I said was "...you can learn enough self defense/hand-to-hand to make a difference.". I think you've been watching too many Ninja Turtle movies.When I see someone on a wheelchair whoop someones azz I'll be a believer. Are you saying the person in the chair is completely disabled or a broken foot kinda injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 What movie just came out lately that had the guy in the wheel chair whip some guys ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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