ReconRat Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Motorcycle pursuit ends in crash west of PetalumaFleeing from a CHP stop, clipped the back corner of a car at about 100mph.http://www.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=SR&Date=20110122&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=110129812&Ref=AR&MaxW=600&border=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 That never ends well. Something about seeing boots or shoes on the road really puts it in perspective for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) That never ends well. Something about seeing boots or shoes on the road really puts it in perspective for me.Yeah, that was from the two 60 year old guys they had to pry out of the car. The rider got tossed somewhere and also lived.edit: ummm, the shoes might be from the rider. I can see bike leathers at the bottom of the photo. Edited January 23, 2011 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I thought tom said it was impossible for a bike to hurt a car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) I thought tom said it was impossible for a bike to hurt a car Not this Tom. This Tom knows better.Another news source says it was a 60 year old man and woman in a Toyota.Minor injuries to car passengers, and minor to moderate to the rider.edit: And the bike didn't "clip" the car. It obviously transferred all it's energy, and bounced off.I really don't trust news reporting anymore. Lots of errors in reporting facts.Motorcyclist Leads CHP On High-Speed Chase Near Petaluma Edited January 23, 2011 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Hope they are alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienpi Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Kind of looks like a 1125R fairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) my bad tom....it wasnt you, i was thinking of magleyHaven't any of these idiots heard of momentum?a sport bike doing 150 exerts less force than a ford focus doing 35 mph...and less than an explorer SUV doing 20Even if the sport bike winds up to 200 mph, he's creating a force less than 1/4 that of a hummer h2 doing 65 mph.I made a simple table, units would be ton miles per hour, but that's not important, what's important is the force ratios from sport bikes at speed vs other vehicles.just as a reference I used, my sport bike, a ford focus, explorer, f150, f350, h2, peterbilt, and peterbilt with load.rough numbers linear momentum.Again, MOMENTUM is more important than speed. If we wreck, we're only really putting ourselves in danger. The effect of our limited mass means that we won't even compare in collateral damage until the high triple digits.I've already posted my momentum table, and on a 500 lb sport bike, you're not doing any more damage to anyone at triple digits than a ford focus at 35, and you get into bigger vehicles, f150, explorer, hummer, forget about it. The only person you're "endangering" is yourself. Edited January 23, 2011 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 my bad tom....it wasnt you, i was thinking of magleyYeah, I was looking too. That and an older thread that might be gone.I think the car had to turn it's front wheels to actually roll over.But there is mechanical force and force applied. If we slap somebody, they have little harm. If we slap somebody with a kitchen knife, it's a total different outcome. The pressure at the point of impact is quite different.I guess I'm saying a bike is pointy on the front end. The Feds will learn of this, and require 6 foot wide safety bumpers on bikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I guess I'm saying a bike is pointy on the front end. The Feds will learn of this, and require 6 foot wide safety bumpers on bikes...Already ahead of youBetter make it 10ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) Already ahead of youBetter make it 10ftdone. Edited January 24, 2011 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 figures it would be a hardley rider..... I KID IKID stil horrible.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschaf Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Impact energy is proportional to the weight of the projectile & the square of the velocity. That means that an 800 Lb Harley with an 180 Lb rider smashing into something at 100 mph does the same damage (to whatever is run into) as a 410 Lb proper bike with an 180 Lb rider smashing into something going 140 mph. If the guy on the proper bike happens to be going say 180 mph the impact energy is 65% greater. Don't try this at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) The old E=1/2mv^2 equation rears it's ugly head again. Edited January 26, 2011 by JRMMiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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