Scruit Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 If a driver signals that he is yeilding to you (waving you out of a sidestreet) then is that legally binding on him? (if you can prove he waved you out). I know that you still must yield to other road users whi have ROW, but what if it the guy who waved you out that hit you? (changed his mind, staged accident etc) If you can prove he waved you out then dow that LEGALLY give you ROW over him? Or does he retain ROW even if you can prove he waved you out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 idk how you would prove that he waved you out in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 idk how you would prove that he waved you out in the first place.Witness or dashcam. HD dashcams run about $80 on ebay these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 How many people are running around with dash cams in their cars besides you and cops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 lol yeah, plus a dash cam normally only sees in front of you if the guy is stopped to your left, you may not catch it on cam at all.personally, i hate when ppl wave me out, because they never look to see whats happening in the other lane. im not so concerned about them staging an accident as i am about them not seeing the douchebag doing 40 next to a row of stopped cars in the next lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 How many people are running around with dash cams in their cars besides you and cops?This thread was intended to be about whether someone can give up right-of-way and if it is legally binding.Do a search for 'dascham' on ebay. More video than you could watch in a year. More and more prevalent as they become cheaper. There's talk about them being built into new cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 lol yeah, plus a dash cam normally only sees in front of you if the guy is stopped to your left, you may not catch it on cam at all.personally, i hate when ppl wave me out, because they never look to see whats happening in the other lane. im not so concerned about them staging an accident as i am about them not seeing the douchebag doing 40 next to a row of stopped cars in the next lane.Depends on cam. Some are fisheye and can see the car waving you out. Mine can see a the first couple cars in all directions of a 4-way stop.I never wave someone out unless I am the only lane the need to yield to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 As far as legally binding IDK but I used to drive for a large sanitation co and we were told we were not permitted to wave traffic around us because if we did and there was an accident the company was liable I don't know how true that is in Ohio it could be it's true in another state and just corporate policy. They said the only people legally permitted to direct traffic were police, fire/rescue and road construction crews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I wave people out that have cars nicer and more expensive than mine in hopes there's some "entertainment" from them trusting my judgement #TrollingForLulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper_308 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 This is what I would do I don't trust another persons judgment! If I can't see, I don't go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I know tht if you hit a 3rd car then you're still at fault. I thinking about if the car waving you out hits you, like it was a staged accident for insurance fraud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I remember on the driver's exam from way back in the day there's a question about making eye contact and all that... And I don't think a driver has the legal power to change the right of way. Right of way is determined by traffic items like lights, signs, lanes, and posted information... It's not changeable by Joe Schmoe "I'm sorry, your honor, the light was red, but she waved me on anyway!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideOfLife Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 My understanding of the law is that if you insert yourself in oncoming traffic, then you take the risk. Right of Way is determined by the law... and not by a driver that is being considerate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysix Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I wave people out that have cars nicer and more expensive than mine in hopes there's some "entertainment" from them trusting my judgement #TrollingForLulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) I never take anyone at their "wave". You can't count on them being correct and if something happens, it's your word against theirs. Plus which will have more weight in court? He said/she said or the photographs and crash report showing you caused the accident? It is your responsibility to make sure you are operating the vehicle in a safe manner. Edited October 8, 2011 by chevysoldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 How many people are running around with dash cams in their cars besides you and cops?LOTS of people are nowadays. I'm looking for one to put in my work van.I ride with my gopro in the work van sometimes but its inconvenient with changing batteries and sd's. I need something made for cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I had a lady wave me out of a Speedway. She was gracious' date=' as the traffic was bumper-to-bumper... [/quote']That's how I dropped my bike and almost got hit. I took the "wave out" pulling out the Speedway by my house, almost got creamed by someone flying up the left turn lane and dropped the bike with a sudden stop. Thanks, but I'll wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Again... don't be "polite". Just follow the f-ing rules! I don't believe a wave will hold up in court. And as my dad used to say as the 60' motorboat approached our sailboat..... "yep, we have right of way......all the way to the bottom". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I remember on the driver's exam from way back in the day there's a question about making eye contact and all that... And I don't think a driver has the legal power to change the right of way. Right of way is determined by traffic items like lights, signs, lanes, and posted information... It's not changeable by Joe Schmoe "I'm sorry, your honor, the light was red, but she waved me on anyway!"I believe we have a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeefZah Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 You cannot "waive" right of way with a "wave".As someone else said, right of way is determined by law and posted by signage and signals.I suppose in this litigious world, you could sue the person waving you on if they end up hitting you, but I think you'd have an uphill battle. If I were investigating a crash like what you describe, I'd cite the right of way violator every time even if they were being waved on.And how do you know, for sure, that they are even waving you on? Maybe there is a bee in their car, the sun is in their eyes, they are having a bout of turrets, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 they are having a bout of turretsyeah i hate when i get turrets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideOfLife Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 That got a laugh out of me John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I don't wave people out, and I don't trust their waves. If at a four-way stop, I might point at someone, but don't wave them out. I'm not going to be responsible for them causing a problem. Let them make a decision. As far as trusting waves, my flashback is when I was a kid, maybe 10-11 years old. I was in the back seat, dad was driving. We were at some kind of stop. I blurted out that it was "clear on my side", so he pulled forward. Almost had a major mishap. Granted, he shouldn't have trusted me, just like I don't trust others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I'm thinking abotu a situation like joining a backed-up main road from a sidestreet. "Downtown" Dublin gets liek that during evening rush - you either get waved out or you wait until the rush is over.Did I mention I was watching a thing on staged accidents for insurance fraud? Apparently the "helpful wave" followed by the "ram you" followed by the "I never waved!" is common. Although I trust and give waves on a case-by-case basis, it just was a thought exercise for me to determine if a wave could hold weight in court, if proven.The answer is apparently NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantahertzdonut Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Again... don't be "polite". Just follow the f-ing rules! I don't believe a wave will hold up in court. And as my dad used to say as the 60' motorboat approached our sailboat..... "yep, we have right of way......all the way to the bottom".More people need to re-learn this. Especially since being polite usually screws everyone behind you in most instances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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