natedogg624 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Diagnostics show kickstand "up" - wires jumpedClutch engaged - wires jumpedBike starts in neutral, kick it in to gear and dies. I've researched around and looks like it's a faulty kickstand relay or starter relay. Any thoughts or ideas? Pretty frustrating to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Kickstand sensor is it. It was a big issue with early Aprilias, so I've seen it before. Starter should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Diagnostics show kickstand "up" - wires jumpedClutch engaged - wires jumpedBike starts in neutral, kick it in to gear and dies. I've researched around and looks like it's a faulty kickstand relay or starter relay. Any thoughts or ideas? Pretty frustrating to say the least.Yeah, kick relay. You may be able to clean the contacts but I just removed mine and crossed the wires. So now I can drive off with the stand down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSparky Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 i've had a few idiot moments, not even knowing my stand was down. the bike let me know. i'd try to fix it and retain sensor functionality if i were you... but you're probably less scatter-brained as me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Kick stand sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anden Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Yeah, kick relay. You may be able to clean the contacts but I just removed mine and crossed the wires. So now I can drive off with the stand down. Bad idea. First left will screw you pretty good if the stand is down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Bad idea. First left will screw you pretty good if the stand is down.Fact! Happened to me on my 77 cb750, launched me into someones yard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 i've had a few idiot moments, not even knowing my stand was down. the bike let me know. i'd try to fix it and retain sensor functionality if i were you... but you're probably less scatter-brained as me.track bike, no kickstand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 he said the switch is bypassed. and the diagnostic mode shows the kickstand is up.on a yamaha we have a built in diagnostic scan tool we can use to test all of the circuits of the bike. no other manufacture does this. so we're very privelaged.you pretty much covered the only 2 things that kills it. so I have no guesses other than a open wire somewhere. a buddy of mine had a cut wire inside the plastic sleeve. you couldn't tell anything touched it there but I cut it open and there it was. cut right in half like someone used a pair of snips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Looking at the manual the kickstand relay is within a larger unit that includes the neutral switch. Bad neutral switch I didn't even consider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 If there's one thing i despise most it's troubleshooting electrical systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I"m wondering if the clutch lever bypass has anything to do with it. can you start it in gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) no, no response from the bike with clutch in, gear selected.if i open the bridge, then it throws a code 19 (sidestand switch). Diag with the code thrown shows kickstand down with no change in the kickstand bridge. Edited April 26, 2012 by natedogg624 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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