oldschoolsdime92 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Granda080 and my fiance and I were relaxing last night and got to talking about riding two up.My fiance has expressed a lot of interest in some two up touring. I have a Penske adjustable rear shock. What should I adjust? It's real soft when the two of us are on the bike. I also came across this on another forum.. http://www.chuckhawks.com/motorcycle_passenger_tips.htmDoes anyone have anything else to add? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Check out my "teach me how to..." thread. Has lots of excellent tips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Get her her own bike, way more comfortable that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) I tried that a few years back. She doesn't have any interest in her own bike. I really need to play with ny rear suspension. Traxxion dynamics set it up for 175, and its beyond soft with the two of us. Edited June 19, 2012 by oldschoolsdime92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 If it's set for you it's always going to be real soft for two up try to find a happy medium where it's stiff enough for two but not too stiff that you can't tolerate it one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Brick Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I always have the passenger (or myself even) put one hand against the riders back when stopping. This prevents helmets hitting together. Give yourself a lot more stopping distance too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 If it's set for you it's always going to be real soft for two up try to find a happy medium where it's stiff enough for two but not too stiff that you can't tolerate it one up.that's what I'm thinking too, i guess I should have rephrased my question, what do I need to adjust ? I've never made any suspension adjustments. It was set up, and I have never touched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky_woodchuck Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Turn up the preload a turn or two. Add a few clicks of compression damping. If it's still too soft, which is will be, just add alittle more preload. Becareful on adding too much compression damping as it'll make it harsh. If you have a triple clicker (ie high and low speed compression along with rebound) start with turning up the low speed a few clicks and the high speed one click. Adjust from there until it feels good.Always make a note how much so you can set it back to where it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Pony Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 To position yourself perfectly for a turn, just look over the rider's shoulder in the direction of the turn. If the motorcycle is turning right, look over the rider's right shoulder; if it is turning left, look over the rider's left shoulder.You don't have to do anything else; looking naturally over the rider's inside shoulder will automatically put your weight right where it belongs in a turn. Keep your body in line with the rider's body to prevent the motorcycle from leaning more than the rider intends. (When going straight, it doesn't matter which shoulder you look over.) Never lean out of a turn; you could cause an accident that way.This is key....make sure it is understood....really understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Oldschool, Call your dirtbuddy Derek. He should know what you need to adjust for both scenarios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slingingchic Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 You let her ride with you? I haven't been aloud to ride as a passenger for awhile now, I got the 'what if we crash... we both go down' 4 second talk. Maybe she will spark interest in riding soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Never lean out of a turn; you could cause an accident that way.This is key....make sure it is understood....really understood.I gotta say, if you're riding as conservatively as you should, and you really understand countersteering like you should, it might surprise you a little if they lean the wrong way, but you as the operator should have no problem at all compensating for that...if a new passenger causes an accident by leaning the wrong way, you were riding way too fast, or you had no idea how to countersteer properly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnor Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Get her her own bike, way more comfortable that way.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Turn up the preload a turn or two. Add a few clicks of compression damping. If it's still too soft, which is will be, just add alittle more preload. Becareful on adding too much compression damping as it'll make it harsh. If you have a triple clicker (ie high and low speed compression along with rebound) start with turning up the low speed a few clicks and the high speed one click. Adjust from there until it feels good.Always make a note how much so you can set it back to where it was.This is what I'm after. I just don't know what's what. I have an adjuster on the remote resivore, one on the bottem near the dog bone and then the adjuster on top of the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/suspensionadjustment.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 That does it!! Thanks conn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 just have to try some different settings and find what works best for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 yes.. adding preload is a must with a passenger.i add alot when we tour, to compensate for the passenger, side cases filled with luggage and top case with luggage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 i really need to figure this preload out on the vfr...sounds like itll help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I've learned a lot in the last few days. I just need to round up a spanner wrench for my rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 i really need to figure this preload out on the vfr...sounds like itll help!my vfr had the remote adjuster.. with me, the wife, and full luggage, i had it maxed out and it still wasnt enough preload. i should have bought a heavier spring for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I gotta say, if you're riding as conservatively as you should, and you really understand countersteering like you should, it might surprise you a little if they lean the wrong way, but you as the operator should have no problem at all compensating for that...if a new passenger causes an accident by leaning the wrong way, you were riding way too fast, or you had no idea how to countersteer properly...The big way a passenger can screw up a turn is to move around and catch you off guard. Such as they lean the wrong way going into a turn and fight your leaning then they realize the should lean with you and do so mid turn creates a pucker factor. To prevent that you have to make sure they know how to lean such as stated above or keep your helmet lined up with mine. If you like to ride a little more spirited this is a must. When I get a new passenger I make sure they are wearing gear helmet jacket gloves and boots. At a minimum for a short ride helmet and boots. I tell them they need to lean with me and not fight it keeping their helmet lined up with mine. I tell them that if they need to to hold tight onto me like a hug. If they are moving around too much I'm going to grab their left arm and pull it so they know to lean in tight and hold on. Then I go and ride and build up from taking it easy to almost how I normally ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 my vfr had the remote adjuster.. with me, the wife, and full luggage, i had it maxed out and it still wasnt enough preload. i should have bought a heavier spring for itwas yours abs I'm assuming then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 My dad tought me how to ride 2up, he hopped on the back of my 77 750, and every turn he would flop back and forth as hard as he could... I could feel the bike trying to move, but I found I was able to compensate for the motion with the handlebars and easily stayed in my lane...It's nice if the passenger cooperates, but even if they don't, that is no reason to crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 was yours abs I'm assuming then?yessir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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