max power Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 When a dealer receives a new bike in the crate, does the crankcase have oil in it, or does the dealer add the oil during prep?I have a 2007 4 whiller that was in a crate til 2012. It has the original oil and I'm curious if its been there since 07 or last spring. Edumacate me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Pretty sure the wife's new 300 was 'dry' ( some residual lube from factory test ) since they wouldn't let anyone start/ride it until the pre-delivery service/inspection was done. I'm not entirely sure thats accurate though. Hazmat may play a role in fluids being shipped in a bike too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDBGoalie Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Normally I'd expect all fluids to be drained before shipping. Safety hazards and such.Unless the dealer had a good reason to change the oil, I'd also expect that to be factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 I worked at a Suzuki dealer back in 2002, at that time all bikes and quads came with full oil. Not sure since then though as it was only a temp job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 I worked at a Suzuki dealer back in 2002, at that time all bikes and quads came with full oil. Not sure since then though as it was only a temp job.If thats the case, I better get it changed before next ride. It might have 10 hrs. on it and it looks clean, but I have been told motor oil attracts moisture when it sits for a long period. Doesnt seem right, but I aint no scientist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 If it hasn't been run it doesn't matter. Moisture boils off as soon as you reach operating temp. Moisture can combine with combustion byproducts to form acids, but new oil is new oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 If it hasn't been run it doesn't matter. Moisture boils off as soon as you reach operating temp. Moisture can combine with combustion byproducts to form acids, but new oil is new oil.Sounds reasonable. I'll probably just change it to be done with it for the year anyway. Doubt it has 20 hrs on it tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.504 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 they come with fluids.typically the oil is a "break in" oil and should be changed after the factory recommended break in procedure.even if it isnt break in oil, id recommend a change after the first few heat cycles. cheap insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 If it hasn't been run it doesn't matter. Moisture boils off as soon as you reach operating temp. Moisture can combine with combustion byproducts to form acids, but new oil is new oil.This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 That oil is six years old. Moisture boiling or not, change it. Even synthetics have a suggested shelf life in the original can of five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Wouldn't it be millions of years old? Is it some additive that goes bad? Do they have additives in standard Dino oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbersidedown Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) If it hasn't been run it doesn't matter. Moisture boils off as soon as you reach operating temp. Moisture can combine with combustion byproducts to form acids, but new oil is new oil.I have heard this about acid forming in the oil also which is why I change my oil every spring regardless of mileage. The alternative is to start you engine and allow it to come up to temperature every two weeks or so to boil off any moisture.I took a test ride on a new bike from a dealership on floor model. I had to schedule a time for the ride so they could "prep" the bike. The salesman said that they needed to fill it with oil and charge the battery. Edited March 7, 2013 by rubbersidedown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Ok, all of you that are saying it's ok. Please go out to your garage and look at your bike and say to yourself. 'It's OK to run six year old oil to save 40 bucks.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 And speaking of oil. Just had this conversation with the wife via text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.504 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Ok, all of you that are saying it's ok. Please go out to your garage and look at your bike and say to yourself. 'It's OK to run six year old oil to save 40 bucks.'agreed, cant hurt to change, and its relatively cheap (compared to engine failure). I also recommend to open the owners manual and follow any and all break in procedures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I also recommend to open the owners manual and follow any and all break in procedures.I did. It says change oil after 20 hrs. Not a retard, hence the concern and questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I did. It says change oil after 20 hrs. Not a retard, hence the concern and questions.Nobody thinks you are a retard. This is an oil thread it's gonna get heated. They always do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 This is a when does the original oil go in the bike thread. I figured it didn't go in until prep because when you buy a lawn mower or any other small engine machine it doesn't have oil in it. I was looking for clarification from someone who has worked in the industry prepping bikes. Not pissed or anything, but telling me to read the manual is jackassery. All it says is 20 hrs first service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.504 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 This is a when does the original oil go in the bike thread. I figured it didn't go in until prep because when you buy a lawn mower or any other small engine machine it doesn't have oil in it. I was looking for clarification from someone who has worked in the industry prepping bikes. Not pissed or anything, but telling me to read the manual is jackassery. All it says is 20 hrs first service.I didnt intend to come accross in that way. in my experience: a ton of new owners disregard an owners manual completely. but to answer the original question, it comes with fluid. some salesman really like to play up the "new vehicle prep" as something better than it is, to justify charging you $395, or what have you on new models.sorry for the confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 But do they put the oil in it or is it already don't at the factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 But do they put the oil in it or is it already don't at the factory?Done at the factory in every case I have ever seen or heard. They test run them and then they don't drain the oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.504 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 yes at the factory, and in most cases they are not test run. the assembly line doesnt have time for a test fire, quality control pulls a few on a random lottery and will test fire/run the bikes, but most are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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