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you take his credit card, and slide it slowly down his cold dead butt crack while simultaneously tazing his corpse until it emits a "beeeeeep" there, your transaction is approved.

How about the government worries about fixing the economy and getting this country out of debt and leaves my fucking guns alone.

If you're not a facebook friend of mine, then you missed this... Here ya go. Just spent 30 minutes on this: The conversation on gun availability is under way. In this post I will endeavor to alienate every single human in the world in one way or another. 1) We HAVE to have mental health involved in some way in the gun purchasing process . That will have to fall somewhere between the extremes of everyone having to submit a doctor's note saying you are "sane", all the way down to mental health professions being required to report "dangerous" people to the govt... I dunno where that will fall, but we have to start trying to prevent dangerous people buying guns. In the UK there is a mental evaluation process for licensing. 2) NICS checks on private purchases is on the table, and I'm all for it. Responsible gun owners already keep good records and verify buyers - this will be nothing different. The exact mechanism will have to be decided. 3) Banning high capacity magazines is a feel-good measure. It may pass but will have no effect. a 30 round mag can be emptied in a few seconds, a mag can be changed in a few seconds. It will have no appreciable difference in the rate of fire. 4) Expanding CCW rights will help. These cowards pick soft targets that are not defended and effective resistance is the only thing that will stop them. That is why they shoot themselves once the police arrive, or an armed citizen intervenes. There is a good reason these crazies shoot up soft targets, not police stations etc. They may be crazy but they're not stupid. They'd get their asses shot off in three seconds flat and they know it. They know that they can shoot up a school and meet zero effective resistance. 5) Arming teachers is an interesting suggestion that is "just crazy enough to work". I'd go for an "air marshal" system where teachers who wish to can be trained to police standards and have to regularly recertify. They would undergo background checks / polygraphs and other safeguards that would allow us to trust them as we trust police officers. You can't MAKE people carry guns. That's a personal choice. 6) Mandatory safe storage laws are likely to come this way. Responsible gun owners already do this, especially if there are kids in the household. If my gun is not in my holster is is in a safe, NO EXCEPTIONS. We hear too many stories of kids finding guns - who are the morons leaving loaded guns around kids? These safe storage laws should NOT force the guns to be stored unloaded. We, as a country, recognize our law abiding citizens have a right to self defense. If we get safe storage laws they must allow for home defense weapons to be stored ready to go. None of this UK-style "ammo in a different safe" bullshit which is ideally suited to UK-style disdain for self defense. 7) None of this will stop school massacres. It will just make the crazies use a different weapon. Meat cleaver, bomb, samurai sword, sarin gas, whatever. 8) Locking the school doors during the day is a great idea. My son explained his school's lockdown process and it's great. I hope the schools don't forget to think like a crazy person and ask themselves; "How else do I get to them?" They need to protect the playground too. (back to point 5) 9) School massacres are not unique to the US. They are not unique to guns. They are not unique to men, or white people, or any other single predictable factor other than balls-out batshit crazy. The difference here is that our right to own guns is abused by the crazies. We must preserve our right to own guns while looking for effective solutions to stop the crazies rather than feel-good measure that make people THINK they are doing something worthwhile but are not really. This will require compromises on both sides, but will also require a better understanding of the root of the problem and that will only come with a frank and open forum, effective communication and, where needed, compromise. I don't want to hear "out of my cold dead hands" or "thin end of the wedge", nor do I want to hear "why do you need a XYZ gun?" or "So it's ok of kids to die then?" We all have our well-rehearsed rhetoric and snappy comebacks. Keep that crap to yourselves. I want to hear real, effective, workable solutions. 10) This is not about "assault weapons" or calibers or magazine capacity or anything like that. Virginia Tech was carried out with handguns and had a higher death toll. The caliber most likely to be used in a murder is .22 so talk about banning large caliber or assault weapons is not the answer. I think I'm about done, now that the gun rights and gun control advocates alike hate me. Now to watch my friend counter drop like Romney's poll numbers after the 47% comment...

Mags makes me do this so often when I hear his babble, so oblivious to the world and evil around him. When something hasn't happened to him, he denies its existince or isn't an issue. And if I were a betting man, I would bet that in many bad situations, you would just shit your pants. I don't live in fear at all, but I also prepare for bad shit that can and does happen. Do you have any kids by chance, are you married, do you get out into the real world much, do you travel much abroad? Every forum has somebody like you, just amazes me there are such naive people in this country.

What a bunch of Dicks

I disagree in principle with any further restrictions on guns for this simple reason - 50 years ago guns were cheap, plentiful, able to be bought and ordered by mail, and few people if any locked them in industrial safes or with super child-proof locks. Most people had them in closets and open cabinets. Children brought rifles to school for rifle club, or hunting after class was out. School shootings, and youth violence in general, was rare compared to today. It ain't the guns, and the more we focus on the tools the further we get away from the real issues. Yeah, draconian restrictions might even make a dent in GUN violence, but it just shifts it (see England), while never addressing WHY people are going off the reservation. It's playing into the hands of people like Magz, who believe guns are imbued with evil spirits that compel people to act out violently by holding them or having access to them. That's just bad thinking to vilify and politicize inanimate objects.

Yes i used to have one in the past! And pictures are up!

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A LITTLE GUN HISTORY In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends. SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET. Spread the word everywhere you can that you are a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!

Some people have way too much free time

I am sure Magley will agree with you, he wasnt there to witness it....so it hypothetically didnt happen.

Yeah. That's an onion booty, and will bring a tear to your eye.

here goes. 96 maxima has an 18.5 gallon fuel tank. 20 cents difference between low and high test. IF the tank was completely dry, that is a $3.70 difference buying the recommended grade octane and the lower octane. Auto zones website lists octane boosters from $4.29 to 13 bucks. I did the math, you decide. It's much easier to just put in the right gas.

Well I guess there is no hope of saving you :lol:

If it comes to that, yes it would. Watch closely and deal with it before it happens. But like I said, I don't think it will go that far. Maximum might be FFL transfer. Which is ok anyway.

Do not buy and fire .38cal +P cartridges through that firearm. Too old if nothing else. Start with some nice target or round nose stuff.

I guess I worded that last one a bit odd... I am excited to put some rounds through the 38, but the closest ranges are a bit of a drive. I was looking at buying a 9mm gun, not 9mm ammo to shoot in the 38.

Ban eagles.

Speigler will do it. I've taken lines in to their shop in Kettering and they made me new ones while I waited. I don't know if you know this but Speigler is located in Ohio just outside Dayton. It's about a 1 hour and 20 minute drive from Gahanna. Here's their address: http://www.spieglerusa.com/contact-us

...and with fewer instances of misidentifying the criminal. http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/02/21/disarming-the-myths-promoted-by-the-gun-control-lobby/

Every time you quote and reply to Magley's ramblings, Jesus choke-slams a baby kitten to death. This reminds me of a saying I like to use: "Don't feed the bears."

Agreed! Fuck that place. If only you knew how stupid you sound. It's really just beyond stupid.

Done:)

Someone rep Swing for me. I'm all out.

So your saying your a woman...

skipping the point, sometimes the best Defense is a good offense

Dick's was a fair-weather gun store to begin with, a place for yuppies to buy North Face shit and pay too much on impulse. Fuck them. Just gives more business to their competitors, who deserve it more.

This won't last, but I feel that it is very stupid to begin with. Why not take cigarettes, alcohol, and stop selling cars for awhile and see how the public reacts.

Your presence is offensive.

Requiring locked storage of firearms not on the owner would be a reasonable law. However it is only enforceable post event. Most gun lockers are reasonably easy to defeat for a determined person and requiring a heavy safe for storage I would deem unreasonable. So I don't that type of law having much effect other than perhaps slightly reducing the accidental deaths among curious kids. $20k a year for an armed vet to protect a school is an very unreasonable suggestion. $40k is still underpaid. The school marshal concept could(should) be opened to janitors, office assistants, teachers aids and other non teachers within the school building. as mentioned of the suggested changes this is the only one that would have made an impact on the Conn tragedy. Craig

Its not about drawing on people and shooting because the have a gun, its about protecting yourself in a situation that calls for you to.

Another plus I see to hiring combat vets is they are less likely to hesitate to pull the trigger than your average teacher if need be.

Pretty sure Police and CHL holders shooting them accomplishes that.

Damn peanut butter rule +rep to parks. -rep to the troll!

Go troll something else mags. You hate guns so much stop blabering in the firearms section.

Everyone should read this. It's pretty good.

Shut the hell up and let us have our kid dreams!!!!!!

BRB, starting petition

Eagles kill babies, we should ban them

yea my Tahoe usually gets 18 to 19 mpg on the freeway. When i brought my 7x14 v-nose trailer home EMPTY i only got 10 to 11 mpgs. With 4 bikes and 4 dudes going to the gap this year i was only getting 7 to 9mpgs(depends on the hills). Couple trips i made to wayne sticking to 2 lanes(not the freeway) keeping it under 60mph i could still get 14mpgs loaded(2quads, fire wood, camping gear). I just bought a 6.5x14 open tandem axle trailer and got 15 to 16 mpgs on the freeway on the way home(unloaded). And 95% of my trailer use is freeway so fuel mileage is huge for me, plus you can do so much more with sa open trailer. Enclosed is nice to keep you shit clean and dry but not worth extra cash and hassle to maintain in my opinion.

I drove to work with the windows down so I could feel like I was riding.

Just once, I'd like to see a politician stand up and say, "People, no matter what laws are passed, and no matter what guns are banned, you're never going to be able to stop someone that's crazy enough to give their life to take yours. The only thing you can do is prepare yourself, either by arming yourself, or accepting the fact that you're a potential target." Wouldn't that be refreshing...

I draw it at fertilizer and racing fuel in box trucks.

I apparently got negative rep from Mags on this for "sensationalizing" Congrats though, Mags. You win the award for giving me the first negative rep. Never had any before today.

^^what he said^^

Ran all your posts through my English to Magz. Babel filter.

it strikes me as funny when people do bad things on drugs the drug gets the blame (becomes an illegal substance. take sudafed for example). but it's never a gun's fault when someone does unspeakable things with one.

Let see the resale value on these NAs when the turbo platform is released. Car of the year lol, fanboy hype of the year.

Sorry tim. Did you say something?