i think what we've gotta figure out now is: how much time do we want to spend BSing and eating and how much time to spend on riding? depending on temps that day, we can meet up earlier in the morning, do a loop or two and meet back at QSL (or winking lizard is near there too i guess) for lunch, and then do another loop or two, and then go our separate ways. if the temps are low in the morning, then we should meet up and eat as early as possible, and get the riding done while it's nice out. just my 2 pennis worth