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dunno, I don't do any of the pricing and we don't really do wraps at our shop, but my guess is 1500-2000 for a full wrap, but I could be off. I think that we would charge 500-800 just to put decent graphics on the sides.

max, if you want to keep it around for OR use/ rental or something, I'll put graphics on it free. I can't get away with a full wrap, but I'm sure I could do something cool.

I used to have the 24-70 L and the the 24-105 L, and dumped the 24-70 in favor of the other. I liked it better, especially for portrait work. Some of the earlier 24-105's were notas good, but I think mine was a later 07 version and it was super crisp and had the best bokeh on a lens I've ever seen. Check it out, very good lens. After buying it, I dumped everything except the 100-400 L and the Tokina 12-24. Didn't need anything else. fredmiranda.com is probably the best for used Canon lens(or was a couple years ago). Sometimes you can get lucky and Adorama or B&H will have used/ refurbed lenes too.

It is showing at the Lennox. This is one of my favorite books. They seem to not be pushing it, not sure why. I heard it was pretty good, I need to make time to go see it.

Sam, I'll be happy to give you a few, but I'm a skinny guy. It might be a little hot if you squeeze into a large.

If buildit will drop it off near Sawmill Rd., I can bring it up the 30th for you. I think most of the other guys coming are east-siders, I may be the closest to him.

Saw it this past weekend. Pretty damn good. 3D was outstanding. I hope if they continue to use this 3D technology regularly, they will start selling decent glasses at Best Buy or something. Those cheap theater glasses hurt my ears. I want some styin' shades.

Track down Reimbrandt, from what I've seen he does great work. I think he's up north a bit though. Attackpainter does great work too.

Pass. I've already got a whole drawer full.

If the night lives up to half the hype we are giving it in this thread, we are all in for a treat. I'm excited.

Cool. Good chance I will show.

Hopefully anyway.

Sure, why not? Or we could make some story up about some stuck-up bitch dicking us over. Whatever. If I ever make Rolling Stone, I won't really give a shit about a story about the band name anyway.

Well I'm excited, and just wanted to share. After a few hundred choices, many quotes from the Hangover, and other stupid or offensive suggestions, my band finally came up with a name. I feel legit now:p The name is SHALLOWTAIL. WTF right? Well, in our thought process, I was trying to think of something to tie us together, and thought about the Ohio flag(OR Tees put this in my head). The pennant shape of our unique flag is called a burgee. I suggested that, and got a resounding "meh" from the others, and the drummer suggested the other name for the pennant, which is swallowtail. Only he mispelled it(this was over email) shallowtail. We thought it was pretty damn cool. Random word, came about as a mistake, pretty much how a band should be named, so we went with it. So there's a small snippet of my life, and an inside look at how bands function. Let me know what you think. Shows should be coming in March. We're thinking Flanagans on Sawmill for the first, we know some people there. Hopefully OR can represent strong so we get asked back. We'll be recording some demos after New Years. I'll post details as soon as we know. Hope everyone has a good holiday!

Moose, I think you can fit in the backseat of my truck, if you don't move or breath for 2.5 hours.

Kevin, don't have a solution for the dog, but you can ride up with me. I know I'm driving, I hate not having a vehicle. I can take 1 person, or 1 normal sized person and a midget person that can squeeze in the half extended cab of my truck.

If you go Sunday afternoon, I'll go with you.

Here's how I got charged through yahoo travel, never thought to call them, usually yahoo gets good rates: Sat, Jan 30 $ 65.00 Sum of nightly rates: $ 65.00 Extra Adult Fee : $ 5.00 Tax Recovery Charge & Service Fees: $ 12.44 Total for 1 Room: $ 82.44

Cool. MJ, you are more than welcome to cuddle with us.

I'm not a Browns fan at all, but I would like to see them turn it around, if for anything just to get some respect for Ohio. Our football teams don't have much respect at all. Bengals, who ever really knows what is going on with them, Browns, just a losing mentality most of the past 50 years. OSU, love them and they are winners, except for big games(lately). Most people outside Ohio hate OSU though. Ohio is a big football state, nearly the fan frenzy and reputation of Texas. We just need some big level teams to back that up. I'm a Dolphins fan, I'm liking what Parcells has done so far. Hopefully Holmgren can do similiar for Cleveland. I don't think he is on the same level as Parcells, but I don't think he is a Belichick lackey either like the past few slouches that have been here.

Super 8 in Strongsville seems the closest and cheapest. $83 for 2 beds. http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-369365-super_8_strongsville-i;_ylt=AjJYJ_D5mMZhMQG5hpNmhOf8xmoA I went ahead and reserved a room there already. So I guess check into this place if you are looking, would be cool to all get the same place, throw mattresses off the roof and all that jazz. Moose, I'm assuming you are with me, have room for more, just let me know wants to cuddle.

I'm with you. A few minutes to a room are not going to matter. We have DD's and can take cabs.

Guess we pissed around too long. There are no rooms available at the Hojo or Sleep Inn in Brunswick that Saturday. Any other suggestions? There are a few in Medina and Elyria, how far is that from Buddy's? What is Buddy's address, may be easier to search for something with that.

I haven't played it too much, but when I did, I would use around 10 frames of various exposures. You can get something decent from 3, but the more frames allow more detail. If shot RAW(maybe other files too), you can also change exposures on a good shot and and combine the multiples from that as well.

I'll throw in with you guys if you want. Need me to book a room?