Uncle Punk

Let me guess your friend from work is the slow guy that cleans the toilets.

Nice meeting and riding with you TigerDoug hopefully the next time won't be so eventful. It wasn't my ride to post so I didn't put it up on the board. Local guys mostly and it was Jinxes ride so there were some wrecks. Eight riders and I had only ridden with Jinx prior to today. We had two go down with one of them being a cruiser. The first wreck we knew about was a ZX10, as we were there someone pulled up and said that another bike from our group was down about four miles back. Both were transported for "minor" injuries and should be home tonight. The ZX10 looks to be totaled and the cruiser looks like it could be fixed. One of the guys from the group rode back home to get his trailer but I am not clear if he was able to bring back both bikes but he was getting the cruiser for sure. We had a dropped bike in a driveway turning around in deep gravel plus when I went to put my bike away tonight I found that I have a flat. Maybe I should start a thread about plugging it or replacing it.

Omg, wtf

This should amuse the military guys. http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/07/gay-infantry-marines-protest-female-grunts/

I lost my Dad in '93. I make it a point to call my brother and sister on the day he died and his birthday.

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fixerd

Nice car?

This is what I was trying to address. I agree with the rest of your post. Truth.

I was making the point that very few self defense scenarios need 50 foot head shots and the ability to do so is not needed to have an effective self defense mind set. No one really knows yet what he was or wasn't wearing and I wouldn't be surprised if all reports up until now have been wrong. I was conceding the point that you could make a case for the need of such skills but very few self defense shooting need that ability. To make a point that if you don't possess the ability that you shouldn't be carrying is so far from the truth that it's not an idea others should look at as fact or give much credence to.

I agree with this post with one exception. The need to make head shots at 50 feet is a good skill to have but NOT needed for effective self defense. It would have been useful in the movie theater but that situation is so rare that it really doesn't count just as banning large capacity magazines will not affect such a rare occasion. I cannot make reliable head shots at 50 feet with a sub compact pistol but very few threats need shooting at that distance. I have back up weapons and carry spares, get in my safety zone as a threat and expect to have an effective fight on your hands.

SILF

I haven't rode with everyone here but would guess that my suv can keep up with 80% of the riders here on back roads. Parks should be able to verify that, I was surprised as well about how easy it was to keep up with bikes on the back roads and always believed that it couldn't happen. Experience has shown me to be wrong in what I thought on the matter. If you haven't been around a vehicle trying to keep up on the back roads you have no idea how capable they are. Brakes are it's downfall as stated above. I have kept up with the local stunting crowd on the back four lane highways until we get into traffic, mostly because they have the bikes geared so they can't go over 130MPH. Riding a bike is more fun but it's easier to go faster in a car. I have been a passenger in a Z06 at Nelson running 1:12s and other than safety equipment and brake pad upgrades the car was stock. (Older 405HP model.) From my understanding that is a quick pace on that track for a bike. Some are faster than that but it's a very small percentage. I would put my money on a car in most cases knowing that they can be beat but the odds are in most cases it won't be the case.

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You must be drinking to not realize that all anyone would have to do is follow the sound of the loud pipes. You should have left it as the electric bike that is was.

You are correct, ride that bike off the road where a car can't follow and you are gone, on the road not so much.

Not really out of the loop, I'm fully aware of the outcome and discussions that took place when that happened. I was trying to prevent a debate that I've seen happening on other forums about the hit and run video where sport bike guys seem to think that a four wheeled vehicle can't keep pace with two wheeled vehicles on the back roads. A pickup is not a sports car yet loaded it was able to keep a decent pace and probably could have gone faster as with most vehicles on back roads if the riders wanted to pick up their pace.

Discussion http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2371594 Follow up video to show how bikes frustrate drivers. http://youtu.be/wBIB9F3WrGM Even a redneck with a loaded pickup can run down a bike

This is from the other thread. Casper didn't want the front page littered with political talk so I am respecting his wishes. I'm all for establishing private hospitals that can sell a membership for their services or actually sell their services. If they can run, test, treat and limit their liability without interference from the government. The government will not allow it though; they have created the healthcare cost mess and want to be the savior so they can have control. Some amount of tort reform support from them would have eased the quick cost rise of healthcare.

While you are making logical choices trying to learn and not destroy a bike my vote for starting out on the track would be the 600. I am certain that you will beat any time on the track with a 600 that you are currently running with the Busa. You will learn more about riding and can always move up if you find the 600 wanting.

That's easy for me, I hate the law. I wear mine not to comply but because I want to, like most traffic laws I will violate them if they don't meet my needs. I can't understand how you can have a seat belt law and allow motorcycles on the road at all let alone without helmets. I'm thankful that it is that way but don't get the freedom of one and the over moderation of the other.

We could go into the history of that but it had no bearing to the question being posed. I expect he was looking for continuity among the thought process of liking an outcome based on personal beliefs regardless of the means. I do not want the government to force a purchase from a business even if I like the business.

Multiple flaws with that, the police protection isn't a private business, no fucking way should anyone be forced to buy a gun.