Thanks I think Scott. I would be happy to do a pre range meet up to go over the guns and how they work. I live about 20 mins away from stonewall. And yeah I stopped going to stonewall on the weekend any time past 3 pm period. They will let anyone shoot in there and I prefer to not get shot while I train. Like I said I have a xd9sc, and the lc9, I could also see if the wife will let me bring her xd9 service model? If you have limited handgun experience I would be willing to bring my .22lr if you think it would be easier to learn the basics with.