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so its better to allow a bike that is twice the cc's?

fuck lets go get a 1098s and race those lil 600's.

Dude, it's not like Eslick os a scrub on a world beater bike. That pass he made on Hacking on Sunday proves that he is one of the top 2 riders in the class.

If Buell swept the podium, I would agree with you.

If there is a cc cap then i think that ALL the bikes should have to fit in that group!

Oh, you mean like NASCAR. Or maybe bring back IROC. Not everyone is into boring cookie cutter racing.

848 and 675 and othe r600 all put out about the same hp about 120-130 the stock buell 1125r is at 146. now explain whats fair about that?

And the power delivery between the twin and the I4 is completely different & the twin is penalized with weight.

Again...What would be fair rules for a class where 600cc I4s and twins can compete with an equal chance of winning?

I see lots of complaining, but no answers.

I have a question for all the people that are bent about the Buell:

What would be fair rules for a class where 600cc I4s and twins can compete with an equall chance of winning?

The Duc 848 is the best middleweight twin on earth an it isn't anywhere near a top 10. There have been 14 races, I4s have won 9; twins (Buells) have won 5.

I read it a few years ago, just saw it again..still funny.

I raced a Harley today and after some really hard riding

I managed to pass the guy. I was riding on one of those

really, really twisting sections of mountain road with no

straight sections to speak of and where most of the bends

have warning signs that say "MAX SPEED 25 MPH".

I knew if I was going to pass one of those monsters with

those big-cubic-inch motors, it would have to be a place

like this where handling and rider skill are more important

than horsepower alone.

I saw the guy up ahead as I exited one of the turns and

knew I could catch him, but it wouldn't be easy. I concentrated

on my braking and cornering. Three corners later, I was on his

mudguard. Catching him was one thing; passing him would prove

to be another.

Two corners later, I pulled up next to him as we sailed down the

mountain. I think he was shocked to see me next to him, as I nearly

got by him before he could recover. Next corner, same thing. I'd

manage to pull up next to him as we started to enter the corners

but when we came out he'd get on the throttle and out-power me.

His horsepower was almost too much to overcome, but this only

made me more determined than ever.

My only hope was to out-brake him. I held off squeezing the lever

until the last instant. I kept my nerve while he lost his. In an instant

I was by him. Corner after corner, I could hear the roar of his engine

as he struggled to keep up. Three more miles to go before the road

straightens out and he would pass me for good.

But now I was in the lead and he would no longer hold me back.

I stretched out my lead and by the time we reached the bottom

of the canyon, he was more than a full corner behind. I could no

longer see him in my rear-view mirror.

Once the road did straighten out, it seemed like it took miles before

he passed me, but it was probably just a few hundred yards. I was

no match for that kind of horsepower, but it was done. In the tightest

section of road, where bravery and skill count for more than horsepower

and deep pockets, I had passed him. Though it was not easy, I had won

the race to the bottom of the mountain.

I will always remember that moment. I don't think I've ever pedalled so

hard in my life. And, some of the credit must go to Schwinn, as well.

They really make a great bicycle...

Ninjas ride Kawasakis, Pirates ride HDs...I mean stand next to HDs at bike night.

The good news is that Buell manintenace (I'm speaking XB, I don't have any ass time on an 1125) is simple DIY. If you are mechaniclly inclined at all, there really isn't much reason to rely on a dealer.

Paul,

maybe we can work out a trade for tire changes...I have 3 coming up.

I was in there about a month ago. They had 2 or three on the floor.. stuffed in a corner. I wasn't impressed with the Buell support in that store. Harley Davidson garbage abound... but no Buell. I suppose you need to support what sells but c'mon.. at least toss the damn bike a bone.

Well that's ghey. It sucks to have to walk past 12 racks of Pirate Costumes to find the Buell stuff on the back wall.

As a whole, HD's demographic is aging. It's in the dealer's best interest to get some younger blood in the door. Maybe if the sell & support Buell today they can sell you an Electra-Couch in 10 years.

Dweezel,

I believe the mods are listed onthe Buell site.

I'm guessing HD Church is the dealership...unfortunately that is the worst part of owning a Buell. I had one of the certified 'Chrome Installers' do some damage, now I do all my own service. Many HD dealerships just don't get sporbikes & have no idea how to sell them or appeal to riders. Buell has pulled out of many HD dealerships for that reason. I would love to see Buells for sale next to BMWs, Ducs, and Aprilias.

Locally, Western Reserve in Mentor is one of the better Buell dealerships in the country. Lake Erie in Avon is coming around. I've heard good things about AD Farrow, but I've never actually dealt with them.

From a Buell insider that who just may be high up on the chain...

"And celebrate that Taylor finished 7th in DSB and 12th in Superbike, meaning the 1125RR is on it's way. Not bad for the first outing for a modified 1125R that is still 20mph down on the field with about 160RWHP vs. over 200 on the Japanese bikes.

I have never in my life seen such absurdity as has been circulating on some web sites. The 1125RR is an 1125R with a kit of parts that is available to anyone. For the price of what Graves or Erion will build you a DSB bike, you get a Superbike.

The AMA wanted us to install the kits at the factory to make the bikes easier for a privateer to race, and since it was assembled and shipped from the factory kitted for racing, the bike had to become a new model to avoid EPA, etc.

Y'know when Ducati was starting out, all kinds of breaks were given to them and everyone applauded. There were huge breaks for the Foggy Petronas and Benelli, all who had more money than Buell. Yet here we are with a tiny American company doing the same thing, and the haters come out in force."

I'll wait a few and see what comes of this thread...

not many possibilities...someone will buy it or it'll go on Craig's

Click.

The box says 20-100 ft/lbs.

For 10 lbs, you would prolly want a lighter wrench that measures inch/lbs.

New in Box

20-100 ft. lbs.

Lifetime warranty

Husky sent this to me as a replacememt, but I already have another one. Retails for $75, I'll sell for $50. Local pickup, near Cleveland.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100050843

Superbike Planet is a bunch of bedwetters, Buell haters from day 1.

The weight change rule however did not affect the Buell; the bike was already over the new weight so no weight was actually added to the bike.

I read that too. But I don't think it was a coincidence that Eslick was further back in the pack in the races following the rule change.

See if you can go to a Buell Dealership and purchase one of these new 1125RR's. Then go to a Suzuki dealship to see if you can get a GSXR1000.

Then go to Rockstar Makita and ask to buy one of Mladin's bikes.

btw...U.S. MSRP is $39,995. Orders must be placed through the Buell Race Department and delivered through an authorized Buell motorcycle dealer.

i disagree, if anything it would give more flexibility as you are not limited to a link by link basis...make the front pulley a little bigger, and the rear pulley a little smaller or vice versa..., and the tensioner should give you a good amount of play anyway

There is no play in the tensioner. You could potentially make different tensioner pulley sizes, or some kind of adjustable tensioner, but the tension needs to be precise (note the rear axle does not move at all). It easier & cheaper to change gearing with off the shelf sprockets and chains.

In many people's opinion AMA has already been showing quite a bit of favor to Buell. So to continue their success in this series (not hating on Buell here but this is where they're having most of it) they create a turnkey, track only model of bike and it is almost immediately granted permission into the series. If Ducati tried to enter the Desmo I'm quite sure everyone would cry foul. Just seems like the favoritism continues...

Take that with a grain of salt, I've been reading up on it but haven't been able to watch much

Hmmm. 1. I'm sure Buell had pemission before they started development. 2. What favor? After Buell won a few, they made them add weight, which dropped them back in the pack.

This is the issue.

What is the difference if Buell makes a streetbike and then Buell Racing modifies it within the Suberbike rules vs. Suzuki makes a streetbike then Rockstar Makita Suzuki modifies it within the Suberbike rules? The only real difference is that the mods are made before/after the racing team actually gets ahold of it. I'm QUITE CERTAIN that RMS has at least $28k of mods on Mladin's bike.

As much as I like my Buell...I don't really think Knapp is going to beat Mladin.

you can't change the gearing with a belt?

cmon...seriously?

Not easily...belts are continuous. They would need to manufacture different belt lengths for each gearing combination.

WTF is this shit.

DMG and Buell caught in bed together.

Maybe I'm missing something. What exactly is the controversy??

American Superbikes all have direct roots to production street bikes and, not surprisingly, each eligible model represents the most powerful motorcycle available from top manufacturers such as Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, Aprilia, Buell, Ducati and others. The big-bore bikes all produce at least 1000cc in engine displacement from a variety of twin and multi-cylinder powerplants. Four-cylinder, four-stroke machines have a minimum post-race weight of 375 pounds and are limited to 1000cc engines, such as the Suzuki GSX-R1000, Honda CBR1000RR and Yamaha R1. Two-cylinder, four-stroke machines must tip the scales at a minimum post-race weight of 390 pounds but can exceed 1000cc in displacement, such as the Buell 1125CR and Ducati 1098R.

After the Laguna fiasco what credibility can that still have?

Laguna was a joke. I've never seen a mess like that in any level of racing.

chain drive? i thought zero lash belts were superior.../sarcasm

On the street belts are superior. On the track a chain allows for gearing changes.