Some of the Harley riders are much better than most others. What I was trying to say is that when pushed to it's limit that a V-rod, due to lean angle limitations, will only allow about 75 to 80% of the corner speed of a proper bike (even if the rider is hanging off like a madman). I think the majority of all riders start to leave their comfort zone around 75 to 80%, thus the faster Harley riders, in comparison with the usual Harley riders,seem really fast.