Call me crazy, but I had mesh gloves on last weekend. I had winter gloves and A* gp plus gloves in my tank bag, but I never hit the numb point, so I didn't switch. I do have an additional layer of blubber that some do not come equipped with, but the 50 degree ride was not all that bad. If we are doing a shorter ride, I may keep riding after if anyone is interested. I need to be back in Cleveland at 6, so it cannot be anything too long. I just want to maxamize the twisty/slab ratio