max power

That's why I don't put together Dayton rides anymore man. The site has grown with way too many people from here wanting to ride, and I'm not taking 20-30 people on a ride with all different experience levels on back/twisty roads. I was once new at riding and if I rode some of the rides I have done as a newbie back then, I'd be dead or have lots or wreck stories.

I think lots of new/inexperienced riders don't know what they're getting into with some of these group rides when it is flooded with people that have been riding for many years and have ridden tight twisty roads for many years.

I can't quite tell, but are you agreeing with me you saying?