magley64 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 the actual joke was the boots being furloughed (because the section of DCMA that accepts shipments IS furloughed). we can't all be awesome and clever and be an expert on defense contract manufacturing like me though. It's true... the only reason i even thought of it was my cuz's post "while the rest of the government is shut down, we are holding hand to hand combat matches." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 It's true... the only reason i even thought of it was my cuz's post "while the rest of the government is shut down, we are holding hand to hand combat matches." Eat eating poi perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 So it seems there was more than just this one video with the suv. This website claims 7 other videos shot from the same dude of the same group, same day. It shows them running redlights, driving on sidewalks and damaging at least one other vehicle while terrorizing the public. They even have video of several of the idiots riding 4-wheelers on the highway. http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736/@orlove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Oh I bet he'll be the most popular squiddie in NY now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Quick Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I imagine most MC helmets would deflect a bullet if it didn't hit square. A helmet wouldn't help them, if you put two in there chest like they preach in ccw class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Revealed: FIVE off-duty NYPD officers were among the bikers involved in SUV attack but not one of them intervened to help father as he was viciously beaten in revenge for running one of them overInjured biker Edwin Mieses Jr now faces permanent paralysisTwo detectives and three other officers, all off-duty, witnessed the attack A number of off-duty corrections officers may also have been presentThe attacker is expected to turn himself in soonRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2445011/5-duty-NYPD-officers-bikers-involved-Edwin-Mieses-Jr-SUV-attack.html#ixzz2gr6xOsPS At least five off-duty New York Police Department officers have admitted being present at the savage revenge beating last weekend on the Henry Hudson Parkway, according to reports. Among the off duty cops were at least two detectives and three other officers, all who witnessed the attack and did little to stop it. One of the detectives, an undercover narcotics officer, watched as the violence broke out and chose not to break it up for fear of ruining his cover. (Funny getting the news from the Brits) Hmmm, seems like there was a little more to this than first reported, at least for the "ride" part. Undercover cops? I have to wonder how exactly the Range Rover got the attention of the riders.They are clearly shown to be ignoring other vehicles. Wonder what this guy did to attract their attention in the first place? I have seen cagers do stupid things to riders in groups which caused them to suddenly find a lot of bikes around them.Never seen things get this out of hand though, still have to wonder though. Not promoting either side of this but rather pointing out there has to be more to this story that we have all heard so far.The Lawyers and the Politicians are running center stage on this now so we may never hear an un-biased report of what really happened. Strange days are upon us. Edited October 5, 2013 by Strictly Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLeav20717 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Also a new video on youtube..shows the same group harassing someone back in 2011...description says they tried to delete it off their site, but someone managed to copy it and post it Also noticed them run at least 2 red lights around the 00 :48 mark Edited October 7, 2013 by RLeav20717 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekClouser Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 More news http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/07/20850173-fourth-biker-charged-in-new-york-suv-chase-cops-seek-two-more All down for charging this guy, but gang assault? I might be overly cautious, but I'm a bit worried about that charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Fuck yea gang assault, wtf else would you call 100 vs 1?? Especially since he's the one who smashed out this fucking guys Window, probably contributing to the stitches that were needed in his face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Poor victim of unlawful persecution Edited October 7, 2013 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I agree with the gang assault charge. Doing something violent in the presence of a motivated crowd is a different and more serious act. It can easily spark riotous behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anden Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I am assuming the gang charges will protect the driver from any lawsuit by Mieses. To which my argument would be that he broke several laws to get from home to under the suv. No fault but his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Revealed: FIVE off-duty NYPD officers were among the bikers involved in SUV attack but not one of them intervened to help father as he was viciously beaten in revenge for running one of them overInjured biker Edwin Mieses Jr now faces permanent paralysisTwo detectives and three other officers, all off-duty, witnessed the attack A number of off-duty corrections officers may also have been presentThe attacker is expected to turn himself in soonRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2445011/5-duty-NYPD-officers-bikers-involved-Edwin-Mieses-Jr-SUV-attack.html#ixzz2gr6xOsPS (Funny getting the news from the Brits) Hmmm, seems like there was a little more to this than first reported, at least for the "ride" part. Undercover cops? I have to wonder how exactly the Range Rover got the attention of the riders.They are clearly shown to be ignoring other vehicles. Wonder what this guy did to attract their attention in the first place? Strange days are upon us. It's NYC, Manhattan at that. My money's on the Rover getting on the entrance ramp at the wrong time and merging right into the sea of squids. Couple that with the one squid brake-checking the Rover and you have what you have here. There wasn't much the Rover could have done to avoid this, in my opinion. The fact that Mieses retained Gloria Allred tells me all I need to know about the strength of their case. She's in it to get her name in the paper, and that's about it. I wonder if NYC law has any provision for civil liability immunity in cases of self-defense, and I expect that question to be answered here in the coming months as the legal process does it's thing. Bottom line is that no jury in the world would convict this guy of any criminal act, and even though the bar for civil claims is set lower than criminal, exigent circumstances are all over this thing. My guess is that Lien settles with Mieses (for a paltry sum, all things considered. Allred knows she'll get clobbered in court, anyway) and either gets judgements on or collects settlements from the other charged riders and possibly the NYPD. It would be pretty awesome if Mieses gets charged unde RICO, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 BREAKING: Video shows undercover cop shattering rear window of SUV in NYC assault case http://www.nbcnews.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 They updated the site: http://insidedateline.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/08/20870446-undercover-cop-seen-on-video-attacking-suv?lite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Ah geesh. Not only lets it happen but contributed as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekClouser Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) The guy who shot the viral video has spoken out. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57606470/new-video-of-nyc-motorcycle-road-rage-attack-shows-men-kicking-suv-driver/ He claims that the bikers were slowing down cars that got intermingled in the ride so that all the other bikes could pass safely. Also alleges that the SUV either threw a water bottle out his sun roof or sprayed water out of a water bottle at them. Appears to be what started the whole confrontation. Edit: He also claims that the battery on his camera died at the moment the video ends and that he didn't edit any of the video. He was merely a witness and does not expect to be charged for anything. Edited October 8, 2013 by DerekClouser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Wait, shady cops in NYC, no way. Say it ain't so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 He claims that the SUV either threw a water bottle out his sun roof or sprayed water out of a water bottle at them. Appears to be what started the whole confrontation. Edit: He also claims that the battery on his camera died at the moment the video ends and that he didn't edit any of the video. He was merely a witness and does not expect to be charged for anything. That sounds plausible...I had suspected there was more to the story... I don't condone the actions of the motorcycle riders in question, but thought there might have been at least some sort of provocation on the part of the range rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 FWIW, undercover officers are not allowed to commit felonies for the sake of preserving their cover unless it is a life & death situation. They are generally 'allowed' to commit misdemeanors to preserve their cover though. Breaking the rear window of a car is vandalism or criminal damaging. I doubt it's a felony offense. His choice not to intervene can be called into question on moral grounds, but in the moment, I understand his hesitation. As for the off-duty officers, they're idiots for associating with people who are participating in such brazen criminal activity, but I'm not convinced that makes them culpable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 True, but his misdemeanor may be escalated to a felony if breaking the window is seen as contributory to the driver's assault. It doesn't take much to set off swarm behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 The guy who shot the viral video has spoken out. He claims that the bikers were slowing down cars that got intermingled in the ride so that all the other bikes could pass safely. Also alleges that the SUV either threw a water bottle out his sun roof or sprayed water out of a water bottle at them. Appears to be what started the whole confrontation. I probably would too if a series of bikers were brake checking me on the highway. He's an idiot if he thinks everyone is safer if all the cars on the highway slow down while they speed up. He's just making shit up to CYA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I probably would too if a series of bikers were brake checking me on the highway. He's an idiot if he thinks everyone is safer if all the cars on the highway slow down while they speed up. He's just making shit up to CYA. Pretty much this right here. He can claim he doesn't expect to be charged with anything, but that's not up to him. I'd be happy to nail everyone identifiable in that group as accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 one of the many reasons I don't like to ride in big groups... Egos and mob mentality combine to bring out the worst in people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotleadsingerguy Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 More news http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/07/20850173-fourth-biker-charged-in-new-york-suv-chase-cops-seek-two-more All down for charging this guy, but gang assault? I might be overly cautious, but I'm a bit worried about that charge. I guess you don't know what Gang Assault is... Gang Assault 2nd Degree -- A person is guilty of gang assault in the second degree when, withintent to cause physical injury to another person and when aided by twoor more other persons actually present, he causes serious physicalinjury to such person or to a third person. Gang Assault 1st Degree -- A person is guilty of gang assault in the first degree when, withintent to cause serious physical injury to another person and when aidedby two or more other persons actually present, he causes seriousphysical injury to such person or to a third person. Yup...that about perfectly sums up what happened. I'd say he should be charged with 1st degree gang assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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