smccrory Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Do I need to "check my privilege" before commenting on this topic? Despite our white skin, most of my immediate ancestors didnt exactly have life served up to them on a silver platter. But I guess their struggle can't be compared to the immense problems faced by a gay born into the wealthiest and most tolerant society in human history...This kid said it very well earlier in the year.http://theprincetontory.com/main/checking-my-privilege-character-as-the-basis-of-privilege/That's extremely well written and totally valid. I'll also add that anyone with Irish or Polish or German descent probably has a similar story to tell.So go for it if you feel strongly. Organize that parade. Edited July 24, 2014 by smccrory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Whoops, tapped quote instead of edit. Deleted post. Edited July 24, 2014 by smccrory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Anybody in the USA that feels they have been unjustly treated due to their sex, skin, religion, orientation, class status,etc should travel abroad a little, or read some damn books. Your "struggle" is the life dreams are made of, for a good portion of the world. I agree with this thread being a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 The Egyptian Festival is the weekend of August 22nd. The Indian Association celebrates the Diwali (Festival of Lights) every year.The event is open to all Columbus residents and visitors. African American Heritage Festival.2014 marks 36 years for the Annual African American Heritage Festival! Asian Festival....the festival has received strong support from state, city, corporate,and communities every year since its beginning in 1995. Festival Latino is the largest Hispanic/Latino event in Ohiobeginning Saturday, August 9th. Ohio Scottish Games.The festival is sponsored by the Scottish-American Cultural Society of Ohio. Pride Parade and Festival.Gays and gay sympathizers. Dublin Irish Festival.Irish & friends. SommerfestFriday, August 22nd. OktoberfestOhio State Fairgrounds.September 26-28. 2014 Columbus Italian FestivalOctober 10, 11, 12. Greek Festival.Labor Day weekend. The Ohio Swiss FestivalSeptember 24-27, 2014 Columbus Jewish Film FestivalNovember 2-16. 2014 Ohio Chinese FestivalWas in February. Straight...white...and male.Everyone else has their celebrations withoutcriticism. It seems there just may be some bias.What do you think? . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'm a descendent of irish 'indentured servants'....basically slaves, and post ww1 german immigrants. ...not exactly a popular group at the time. As far back as I can trace it, my family has been farmers and blue collar workers. I work for a company in which nearly every black person or woman that has been up against a white male for a promotion gets it, regardless of how under qualified they are and they retain that position regardless of how incompetent they are. Tell me again about my privileged life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Paraphrased from Carlin, but I think it's true. -Is it just me or should "pride" be reserved for something you've actually achieved, that requires some effort or skill? Proud to be white, proud to be male, proud to be brown eyed, all bullshit. Accidents of birth. Edited July 25, 2014 by magley64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 This all reminds me of a outrage I read on Twitter about the coke addict mayor from Canada. (Mayor Ford, IIRC) Everyone was pissed and calling him a bigot for voting now on a proposition that would give money to help Young, Gay, Homeless Men. Wait..... who decided it had to be narrowed down. If we are helping, shouldn't we help them all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 In defense of Rob Ford, he was drunk and high on crack at the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphy Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Straight white male fest? Isn't that Jamboree in the Hills? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Paraphrased from Carlin, but I think it's true. -Is it just me or should "pride" be reserved for something you've actually achieved, that requires some effort or skill? Proud to be white, proud to be male, proud to be brown eyed, all bullshit. Accidents of birth. I'm proud to be a high-functioning computer nerd. Does that count? Straight white male fest? Isn't that Jamboree in the Hills? Love bluegrass, and yea, good call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 In defense of Rob Ford, he was drunk and high on crack at the time!Yes, he prolly was, but I have to say, I would vote no too. What makes one group more deserving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Noting wrong with any festival organized by any group unless their mission is to hurt another group. I liked the post above about Gay Pride being an acceptable name but White Pride is not. Why is that?To suggest that white straight guys should not be allowed to have a festival because they have not struggled in life is a screaming example of prejudice in and of itself. I was one of four boys raised by a single mother on the poverty line. My childhood was certainly not one of privilege. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 The Egyptian Festival is the weekend of August 22nd. The Indian Association celebrates the Diwali (Festival of Lights) every year.The event is open to all Columbus residents and visitors. African American Heritage Festival.2014 marks 36 years for the Annual African American Heritage Festival! Asian Festival....the festival has received strong support from state, city, corporate,and communities every year since its beginning in 1995. Festival Latino is the largest Hispanic/Latino event in Ohiobeginning Saturday, August 9th. Ohio Scottish Games.The festival is sponsored by the Scottish-American Cultural Society of Ohio. Pride Parade and Festival.Gays and gay sympathizers. Dublin Irish Festival.Irish & friends. SommerfestFriday, August 22nd. OktoberfestOhio State Fairgrounds.September 26-28. 2014 Columbus Italian FestivalOctober 10, 11, 12. Greek Festival.Labor Day weekend. The Ohio Swiss FestivalSeptember 24-27, 2014 Columbus Jewish Film FestivalNovember 2-16. 2014 Ohio Chinese FestivalWas in February. Straight...white...and male.Everyone else has their celebrations withoutcriticism. It seems there just may be some bias.What do you think? . Since you asked what I think... I think all those groups were the subject of oppression and/or discrimination to a much higher degree than white makes. Paraphrased from Carlin, but I think it's true. -Is it just me or should "pride" be reserved for something you've actually achieved, that requires some effort or skill? Proud to be white, proud to be male, proud to be brown eyed, all bullshit. Accidents of birth. It's just you. "Pride" does not need to be reserved for something you've achieved. You can "take pride" in who you are. The problem is when pride in who you are turns into the opposite of that for people who WEREN'T born the way you were. Noting wrong with any festival organized by any group unless their mission is to hurt another group. I liked the post above about Gay Pride being an acceptable name but White Pride is not. Why is that?To suggest that white straight guys should not be allowed to have a festival because they have not struggled in life is a screaming example of prejudice in and of itself. I was one of four boys raised by a single mother on the poverty line. My childhood was certainly not one of privilege. Probably because "White pride" was used to oppress others, not actually take pride in being white. I see nothing inherently wrong with a bunch of straight white guys taking pride in being white & straight. The problem is when they're using it as an excuse to be douchebags to people who are NOT white & straight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Probably because "White pride" was used to oppress others, not actually take pride in being white. I see nothing inherently wrong with a bunch of straight white guys taking pride in being white & straight. The problem is when they're using it as an excuse to be douchebags to people who are NOT white & straight. Exactly - you said it much more succinctly than I could have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) So... Straight white males throwing a festival automatically makes them douchebags... Gotcha Funny how all the fucking people who call for an end to racism and for equality for everyone, are usually the most racist and don't even realize it. 1. All white males have had a silver spoon. Nothing worked for, no struggles. 2. It's OK to be proud, but if you tell anybody about it or celebrate - you're a douchebag. Glad you guys made those points. Down with the white devil! Edited July 25, 2014 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 So... Straight white males throwing a festival automatically makes them douchebags... GotchaFunny how all the fucking people who call for an end to racism and for equality for everyone, are usually the most racist and don't even realize it.1. All white males have had a silver spoon. Nothing worked for, no struggles.2. It's OK to be proud, but if you tell anybody about it or celebrate - you're a douchebag.Glad you guys made those points. Down with the white devil! No, douchebags who act like THEY'RE the ones who are more victimized so they can feel good about their douchebaggery are douchbags. Why the butthurt Butters? Feeling unloved for your white hetero dudeness? Want us to have a Tyler Parade to celebrate your diversity too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Having a festival to celebrate something doesnt mean someone is pretending to be a victim. And no, we can't have a Tyler parade. I'm too white, straight, and male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 are you sure it's a straight white guys' festival? cause it sounds gay as fuck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 So... Straight white males throwing a festival automatically makes them douchebags... Gotcha Funny how all the fucking people who call for an end to racism and for equality for everyone, are usually the most racist and don't even realize it. 1. All white males have had a silver spoon. Nothing worked for, no struggles. 2. It's OK to be proud, but if you tell anybody about it or celebrate - you're a douchebag. Glad you guys made those points. Down with the white devil!Yup I hate white people because they're white. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) None of us white skinned folks are truly Caucasians......end of story. The entire race thing and "minority" categorization is also stupid and archaic, and will always set some up to be less than and others to be greater than. Do away with it all for Christs sake, who gives a shit!!!!!! Edited July 26, 2014 by Pokey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I suspect race will get so convoluted within a couple generations anyway, that it won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Love bluegrass, and yea, good call!Jamboree in the hills isn't bluegrass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Jamboree in the hills isn't bluegrass.And there's still buttsex, albeit white buttsex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Jamboree in the hills isn't bluegrass.20 years ago it was. Looks like glam country took it over. Gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 20 years ago it was. Looks like glam country took it over. Gross.Lol. Yep. Glam country. Good description. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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