blue72beetle Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Yeah, I know, none of you are lawyers so I fully expect snarky replies. I sold my Grom to a guy in Ohio recently. Today I get a letter from the Ohio Dept of Taxation, asking me to verify the selling price so they can bust him if he under-reported the price on the title. I'd like to tell them to fuck off. IMO, I paid sales tax on the bike once when it was new, they don't need to collect on it again. But that's just my opinion, fuck the government, etc. and all that. At the bottom of the letter it states "Any false representation of the price would be in violation of Ohio Revised Code section 2921.13. Violation of this section is punishable by a fine of up to $1,000 or six (6) months imprisonment, or both." Since you guys live in Ohio, is this common over there when you buy/sell used cars and bikes? Are they strict on it? I figure they aren't too strict, or else they would've required someone to sign for the letter. I probably will contact the guy I sold it to, and ask him what he reported as the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I would not lie, that ain't worth it. The question is, can you legally ignore the letter? I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, Tonik said: I would not lie, that ain't worth it. The question is, can you legally ignore the letter? I dunno. Last time I got one I accidentally ignored it. Realized about a year later I never mailed it in. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Was sale price listed on any VIN identifying archived online sites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Isaac's Papa said: Did they send it "Certified Mail"? If you didn't sign for it, they can't prove you got it. Fuck them and their taxes. IANAL, btw. Don't respond! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Last one I got I wrote "I'm glad you have nothing better to do than worry about the tax on a vehicle." Screw them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 If 3 hours ago, Idiot said: I wouldn't lie either, but then the next question is... are they going to use whatever answer you give against you if you don't include it as income in your next return? Sorry, just realized you're one state over. They probably don't share that info. It wouldn't be income, it would be a loss in 99% of scenarios 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Wait, dont you write the sale price on thr back of the title when you sell it? Did you do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 When me a Poke traded bikes we got these, but we put ($0 trade)on the sale price, well because it was. We ended up calling and paying the tax on the difference in value which was like $1500, so we said. In your case I'd ignore it utill they ay least make a "official" attempt to contact you instead of a computer generated letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 8 hours ago, Casper said: Last time I got one I accidentally ignored it. Realized about a year later I never mailed it in. YMMV I've done the same accidentally when I moved. Found the papers 6 months later and never heard a thing after that letter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Quick Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I received one as a buyer. Ignored it , and the certified letter came later. They were trying to tax me for more than the vehicle sold for new, and this was on a 7 yr old quad. I'd contact buyer like you mentioned. When I contacted my seller he said he never herd from them? If your buyer put a rediculious low price on the title, that's why it was flagged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, M_Quick said: I received one as a buyer. Ignored it , and the certified letter came later. They were trying to tax me for more than the vehicle sold for new, and this was on a 7 yr old quad. I'd contact buyer like you mentioned. When I contacted my seller he said he never herd from them? If your buyer put a rediculious low price on the title, that's why it was flagged. when i bought gumps 599, they tried to tell me that local dealerships were selling them for $6,500 or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Quick Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 when i bought gumps 599, they tried to tell me that local dealerships were selling them for $6,500 or something like that. About the same shit they told me. They said that was the average price they see them selling for. I'd have to lool but it was about $6500 as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Contact the buyer, find out what he put as the selling price and communicate this amount back to the state. Your answers match, end of story. If you can't get a hold of him, give them a lowball price and worst case he has to pay a little more tax. If I had ever under reported the sale value in the past when buying selling, it definitely would've been done with the knowledge and consent of the other party and wouldn't be far enough away from a reasonable price to arouse suspicion. Again, if I ever did do such a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFDemo Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 If it was a cash transaction and no checks or other receipts, it is the responsibility of the buyer to pay the taxes (and they basically have no proof). They are trying to do an end run to get the buyer to pay more. If the number put on the title matched the sale, no issues. Mostly, they are fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 yep fuck the government is pretty much the mantra... Full value sales tax has already been paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue72beetle Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Buyer got back to me, he put $500 on the title. I left it blank for him when I sold it, here in Indiana we do that all the time, they don't care how much you pay for something. However I'm guessing it won't be too long before Indiana starts to look for ways to get more money out of you. I'll put $500 on the form and mail it back, one of these days when I get bored. Nothing online to tie it back to either of us or the bike, he paid cash. If they don't like that, then guess what, I blew the engine up before I sold it, it was worthless. Wait, what? He fixed it and rides it around? Just like new? Hmm, good for him, he got a deal. Now I know, if I ever sell a car or bike to someone in Ohio again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Throw the letter away, dont answer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 How many times is the government entitlted to sales tax on the same item? Obviously, it was taxed when it was new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 The tax police will be hanging out at garage sales soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 I sold my sentra to a Mexican last year and got one of these letters. I was honest on it put down the sale price. If I had any way to contact the buyer and a translator I would have, but I didn't. Fuck him, he can pay the tax, his dumb ass for putting a ridiculous low price on the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) I put wrecked / doesn't run / parts only on all my titles, lol... don't care...It's my choice edit: most of them aren't worth anything when I'm done with them anyway. Edited June 25, 2016 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 I actually got one for my Tahoe over the winter that I traded in to a dealership. I had a good laugh and chucked it immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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