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15 hours ago, Tpoppa said:

I rode about 250 miles today and saw 40 or 50 Trump signs. I saw exactly 1 Biden sign. In 2016, I remember them being about 3:1 Trump: Clinton.  

I have observed the same thing on a ride yesterday, many Trump signs, few Biden signs.

Something kinda weird, on my street, 2016 there were many Trump signs and 1Clinton. This year the D house has the Biden sign, but the there's no Trump signs this time. I don't get it.

I don't get what the polls say, at a toss up race or Biden slightly ahead. Is it possible Trump supporters don't participate in the polls?

No matter what, it's going to be an ugly, ugly election, probably end up in the Supreme Court..

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15 minutes ago, mello dude said:

I have observed the same thing on a ride yesterday, many Trump signs, few Biden signs.

Something kinda weird, on my street, 2016 there were many Trump signs and 1Clinton. This year the D house has the Biden sign, but the there's no Trump signs this time. I don't get it.

I don't get what the polls say, at a toss up race or Biden slightly ahead. Is it possible Trump supporters don't participate in the polls?

No matter what, it's going to be an ugly, ugly election, probably end up in the Supreme Court..

I've read a few articles about polling error leading up to the 2016 election.  If you remember, Clinton was up 6 or 7 points going into election day.

From what I read, the populations of big cities were over-represented in the polls, and urban areas tend lean more democrat.  I also read that Trump voters were less likely to participate in polls when asked.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see something similar in the 2020 polls.

God, I hope this election is not close.  Whoever wins, hopefully it's decisive enough to reduce the post-elections-bitching.

 

 

 

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On 8/31/2020 at 3:32 PM, Tpoppa said:

I've read a few articles about polling error leading up to the 2016 election.  If you remember, Clinton was up 6 or 7 points going into election day.

From what I read, the populations of big cities were over-represented in the polls, and urban areas tend lean more democrat.  I also read that Trump voters were less likely to participate in polls when asked.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see something similar in the 2020 polls.

God, I hope this election is not close.  Whoever wins, hopefully it's decisive enough to reduce the post-elections-bitching.

 

 

 

Exactly why one side wants to get rid of the Electoral College.

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On 8/31/2020 at 3:32 PM, Tpoppa said:

God, I hope this election is not close.  Whoever wins, hopefully it's decisive enough to reduce the post-elections-bitching.

 

 

 

I don't think it really matters who wins this election.  It's not going to be post-election-bitching.  If Trump wins the dems/anarchists/socialists are going to burn down every major city.  If Biden wins it's going to go to a second civil war.  Sorry to move the prepping thread over into this one for a moment but regardless of who you want to see in office it would be wise to start stocking up on all the things you couldn't buy when the corona first hit us.  I think you are going to see basic needs type items are going to be even harder to attain.

 

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I didnt really notice Biden signs until after the conventions. Trump signs were numerous before that.

It seems many of the signs, especially Trump ones, are very large and in many cases "creative". 

I'm not as pessimistic as vf1000 but I think its going to be ugly leading up to and likely after the election. 

If Trump wins riots will be worse. If Biden wins ammo and gun hoarding will go into overdrive. 

This election may see an even bigger divide between rural and urban in the voting. 

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On 8/30/2020 at 11:56 PM, Tpoppa said:

I rode about 250 miles today and saw 40 or 50 Trump signs. I saw exactly 1 Biden sign. In 2016, I remember them being about 3:1 Trump: Clinton.  

In October 2016 I would ride my bicycle 50-65 mile routes in rural areas. I counted 67 Trump signs and 3 Hillary signs and the media told me that Trump was going to lose by 10 points. Over and over the media along with the elite told us there was no way for Trump to win. I scratched my head and figured they had better information than some sign counting analysis. Troppa, have been ridding my MC more this year and see the same sign differences you have. Once again the polls are telling us Biden is way ahead of Trump. Scratching my head again?!

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If the election would have taken place 45 days ago I think Biden would have won.  As of today, seems like Trump is back in charge.  Vegas odds tend to agree.

The Democrat plan to riot, loot, and promote chaos and say it happened on Trump's watch seems to have completely backfired.  Democrats are clearly getting blamed for this, and it shows in the most recent polls.  Biden is now even condemning the violence, even though his campaign is still financially supporting the rioters and looters with bail money.   Hell, even dumbass Don Lemon is finally saying the violence needs to end.

The radical left can suck it, but I do feel bad for reasonable, moderate democrats.  If Trump does win, those moderates will have plenty of places to point fingers...Pelosi, BLM, Anitfa, and CNN are all pushing reasonable Americans that are disgusted with this violence to vote for Trump. 

   

 

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17 minutes ago, Tpoppa said:

If the election would have taken place 45 days ago I think Biden would have won.  As of today, seems like Trump is back in charge.  Vegas odds tend to agree.

The Democrat plan to riot, loot, and promote chaos and say it happened on Trump's watch seems to have completely backfired.  Democrats are clearly getting blamed for this, and it shows in the most recent polls.  Biden is now even condemning the violence, even though his campaign is still financially supporting the rioters and looters with bail money.   Hell, even dumbass Don Lemon is finally saying the violence needs to end.

The radical left can suck it, but I do feel bad for reasonable, moderate democrats.  If Trump does win, those moderates will have plenty of places to point fingers...Pelosi, BLM, Anitfa, and CNN are all pushing reasonable Americans that are disgusted with this violence to vote for Trump. 

   

 

The riots and statue pulling have touched cities and media in more ways than illegals did in 2016 and we know how that worked.

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"Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad" - General Mattis

 

 

 

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It's already real fucking crazy.  tRump keeps talking about a rigged election & then he's doing everything he can to rig it to his favor, then Don Jr. is soliciting an "army" of supporters to harass people at the polls. Then tRump needs to fill RBG's spot in the Supreme court right away so when he gets voted out & doesn't want to leave he has protection. Then there's Ohio with only 1 drop box for each county (850,000 voters in Cuyahoga county, 15, 864 in Harrison county).  Still lots of suckers for the con man though.

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Before I go here... I am not a Democrat, no way no how.... 

I agree about Trump to try to rig the election.... First he hires Louis DeJoy - a major Repub donor $millions for the postmaster general. (Conflict of interest anyone?)

DeJoy immediately changes procedures to slow down mailing and dismantle high speed processing machines... (no problem there.)

Then Repubs conspire with Kayne West to get him on the ballot of battleground states to suck votes from Biden... 

And then Bill Barr as attorney general is going as another Trump sycophant to discredit mail ballots. 

And finally Trump is actively discrediting mail in ballots, even though some state have used for decades. (Hypocrite, Trump mailed in his ballot)  

Felony after felony, the deserves a cell in a federal prison. 

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