thorne Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Long story short, I am pretty damn sure this person will do it if this FALSE POSTIVE is let to ride. He got into some minor legal issues and because of cold medicine tested postive for aphetmieans. No his parole is going to be revoked and he was told he's going to prison. Now I don't know what to do this person is like my brother I'm closer to him then anyone else in the family. He has a history of mental instablity to the point I even took him to OSU once before. On a prior occasion he attempted to shoot himself and the hammer got stock back by the slide, I am so scared as he is really close to me. Fuck this wonderful war on drugs, Someone is about to lose there lively hood or even there life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Wow, I am so sorry to hear this. The key in the situation is you need to stay calm. have you talked to this person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 yes I have and the consesis is, I ANIT GOING TO FUCKING PRISON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 if he's mentally unstable and has been shown as such in the past, that may play into his favor for getting put in a hospital vs prison. better than going into the ground. yes I have and the consesis is, I ANIT GOING TO FUCKING PRISON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 He already stated he would kill himself before a mental hospital I feel so helpess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Then if its settled, at least provide constructive advice: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/razor2.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 PS: Suicide is the cowards way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragknee66 Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Cowards way out.. if I had to chose between a long time in prison or staying in a mental hospital for a long time.. it might not be that hard of a choice to just say the hell with it. But my advice is just be there and do whatever you can to help. No matter what it is. Suicdal related issues are a sign of "help me". Ive had to deal with quite a few suical people lately actually. One guy tried hanging himself from a ceiling fan with an electrical cord, the cord broke and he fell hard to the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 hmmmm.....being dead sucks worse if you ask me. he needs to have something to live for.......keep close to him. He already stated he would kill himself before a mental hospital I feel so helpess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 You obviouly have never been in a mental hospital. I think I would prefer death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 PM Tilley or myself. I've dealt with a situation vaguely similar to this, and I'm sure the good doctor has immense knowledge on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 At this point I feel consoling is the only way to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 A kid from my school was in the same boat. He turned 20, got into some trouble, ended up punching a cop, he was looking at some serious jail time, lost his college scholarship. Needed help or whatever, everyone even his friends blew him off. He ended up eating a gun in the woods.. I'd try to talk to him and figure out what he needs or is looking for and try to make the issue seem like a bump and not a wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I'm trying, It is hard to know what to say when If I was in his shoes I could understand the justifcation even if it is the cowards way out. I wold have a mental breakdown in jail, Isolation damnation aHHHHHHH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Suicide the cowards way out? Gotta explain that one to me sometime. It has nothing to do with being a coward and everything to do with mental state and current situation. If your friend truely wasn't on any drugs and still tested positive what the hell is he going to prison for? Ain't the system better than that? CR cops help me with that. Hell help this guy out if you can because this again points to why I have no faith in law enforcement and am actually terrified of what could happen when cops have a bad day. Also if I were faced with a prison stay and record I don't think I'd have trouble ending my life either if I was innocent with no way to prove it. Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farley Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 no.. the system is fucked... no matter how you look at it. I am 20 years old and have fought the system every which way i could... youll get screwed even if your innocent. and suicide is a cop out if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrblunt Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I hear it's warm in South America?? If my choices are offing myself, prison, and sipping on drinks in Rio, I'd be out like the gout. F going to pound me in the @ss prison. I did a few hours downtown for 'excessive speeding' when I was much younger and that was too much for me. Lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 find evidence to present the fact that the cold medicine presented a false postive reading. It best be real good because parole officers dont give a fuck about parolies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351mach11647545510 Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 try getting involved with him. try to get him to go out and do stuff so he wont think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethepirate Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 You should just really try to show him the good side of things. Even if he does have to serve some jail time, make sure he knows there is good stuff in the future for him. we all have hard times, but we make it through because we know it will get better, even if it doesnt seem like it will. get him away. my cousin was having some BIG problems (drugs, jail, etc.) and my aunt sent him out to live with my uncle in nevada. Europe is always a good choice too. the culture is just so much different. it is more relaxed, and people dont stress about the little things like we do here. and, this may piss some people off... but i find the state of ohio to be really depressing definitely not the ideal place for someone who needs an uplifting environment to make them see that it is worth it to stay alive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Dont come to CR for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 get him to a hospital, even if you have to call the cops on his ass. my best friend pulled a similar stunt about a month after our mutual friend hung himself (i made a thread about that over the summer) and we were all worried so we called his parents and had him committed to a hospital. he called me a day after he was released to thank me and to tell me that his stay at the hospital was so horrible he'd never think about doing something like that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethepirate Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 my cousin was on suicide watch at a county hospital around here. he had a 24hr guard. my mom and sister went to visit him, and apparently the guard was just in there hanging out with him, BSing and whatnot. the time in there really helped him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 find evidence to present the fact that the cold medicine presented a false postive reading. It best be real good because parole officers dont give a fuck about parolies. He went to get a hair test to prove his innocents. He also has been in constant contact with his lawyer. I'm hoping for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Friday I am going to be on stand by if shit goes down I'mgoing to go and sediate him. He takes xanax for his nerves already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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