Das Borgen Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 it s so easy to cite engines that were turboed from the factory though i m more impressed with gas engines that were never factory turbo...BMW's M10 engine though was a special case....it never saw a factrory turbo but when BMW used 60,000mile-old street car blocks for turbo...they were making in excess of 1000whp with that 1.5L engine in Formula1 in the 1980s..but the head was welded to the block and boosted to well over 70psi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 3.0 and 3.2 Yamaha sho engines do well up to about 500hp, all stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Formula 1 doesnt count. Those motors are meant to last 2-3-400 thousand miles. They are a marvel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 5.4L Ford GT motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 d15b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loser05 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 is there a point to this topic or is it just a generic answer... people can say all day long what engine they think is better for boost but unless there is a means to the question then all it is, is a bunch of people saying there opinions. but personal i would got with a a ej25 ( subarus wrx/sti engine ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Question is irrelevant. you need to specify how big or small of turbo. Boost number will only get u psi not how much boost they can handle, My stock motor VW could boost 28psi on a stock turbo, 32 on a 35r and the power number are waaaay dif. Please ask logically next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 6G72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Question is irrelevant. you need to specify how big or small of turbo. Boost number will only get u psi not how much boost they can handle, My stock motor VW could boost 28psi on a stock turbo, 32 on a 35r and the power number are waaaay dif. Please ask logically next time. Cylinder pressure is a more appropriate term for determining which motor can take more. Or HP per hole is also a good determinant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Well of course anything that came boosted, the 03-04 Cobra motors, the 5.4 out of the GT500, the LC2 out of the old Buicks, the 4.3 out of the old Sy/Tys, about any Ecotec motor, SRT-4s, Evos, Subis, I'm sure lots of euro and jap cars but I'm not up on that. I'd want to play with cars that are easily tunable and GM and Ford have that easy to follow speed recipe that makes the awesome choices, but I'd rather spend time playing then trying to get shit to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 7m is a piece of shit motor, it was based on a design that when they produced the 7m was around 30 years old. Jz's are strong motors I hear the bottom end on ford gt's are good for over 1000hp. Go hump your 1J some more and then get back to me when you learn how to properly care for and build a 7M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Cylinder pressure is a more appropriate term for determining which motor can take more. This. What kind of power are you seeking? It never hurts to start with a turbocharged design, but any badass NA motor can make a hell of a turbo motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrsplat Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Go hump your 1J some more and then get back to me when you learn how to properly care for and build a 7M. :lolguy: I knew that was coming. Christian you're my favorite 7m owner. On a side note, there's 1jz motors in the 700hp range with stock internals that are holding up just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentStateTsi Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 is there a point to this topic or is it just a generic answer... people can say all day long what engine they think is better for boost but unless there is a means to the question then all it is, is a bunch of people saying there opinions. but personal i would got with a a ej25 ( subarus wrx/sti engine ) Did you really bring up an open deck engine in this topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 lol @ putting the ej on this list. I did forget to mention the KA24 from Nissan. Plenty of 240's seeing high boost from this iron block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent1976 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 plenty of stock 5.3 truck motors take 12-15lbs all day I agree The 4.8,5.3,6.0 truck motors are all good on boost. There are quite a few making 600+ whp with 20+psi on stock bottom end 4.8L, which always baffles me. They are a dime a dozen, so no one cares if they blow them, but it doesn't happen very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 lol @ putting the ej on this list. I did forget to mention the KA24 from Nissan. Plenty of 240's seeing high boost from this iron block. I agree the ka is under rated but in stock form they suck if ur talking big turbo/high boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 HP per hole, stock for stock, YOU WILL NOT COMPETE WITH A 4G63 OR 2JZ-GTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrsplat Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 HP per hole, stock for stock, YOU WILL NOT COMPETE WITH A 4G63 OR 2JZ-GTE. Hp vs Displacement Is a better argument honestly. As far as durability goes 1jz is pretty equal to the 2jz in terms of power vs displacement. Hp per hole is an unfair comparison given the fact the 1jz has a much shorter stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hp vs Displacement Is a better argument honestly. As far as durability goes 1jz is pretty equal to the 2jz in terms of power vs displacement. Hp per hole is an unfair comparison given the fact the 1jz has a much shorter stroke. Not my fault Toyota built a shitty motor. :dumb: Cylinder pressure is engine load, which equates to how much flow from the turbo in lbs/min it can handle and HP it can produce. 2jz and 4g win everytime. Even beating out newer v8's. Of course, this is all stock for stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrsplat Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Not my fault Toyota built a shitty motor. :dumb: Cylinder pressure is engine load, which equates to how much flow from the turbo in lbs/min it can handle and HP it can produce. 2jz and 4g win everytime. Even beating out newer v8's. Of course, this is all stock for stock. Now that we're speaking in terms of cylinder pressure, a fair comparison can be made. stock for stock 1jz can handle the same cylinder pressure the 2jz can without grenading. Given its larger displacement, better cams, etc. the 2jz makes more power at the same cylinder pressure. The only real benefit of the 1jz over the 2jz is the price. given the thread is titled "Stock motors that can handle a lot of boost." and not "HP per hole", the statements made about the 2jzgte can be applied to the 1jzgte as well, given that both motors in question are non vvti motors. vvti jz motors aren't as durable. As far as your statements about the 4g63t, they're all correct as far as I'm concerned, as long as the statements are only referring to a 6 bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Did you really bring up an open deck engine in this topic? Yup. He did. I wonder what the highest amount on one of those is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Yup. He did. I wonder what the highest amount on one of those is. Ive read upto 600 on a stock block. But most don't get past 450-500 before they blow up or the rings/ringlands fail. Another open deck block that takes power is the ecotec. But they have crank and bearing problems over 500. The block has been reported to take 750. But these are very rare circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRAntwon Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 From experience, SRT4s 2.4L is pretty good. I squeezed 125+ out of each hole on a weekly basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z Fag Jr. Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Go hump your 1J some more and then get back to me when you learn how to properly care for and build a 7M. I can build a motor just fine, I choose not to because of its SHITTY OLD DESIGN. I care for my motors extremely well. So go cry and defend your 7m its still a pile of shit to me, and anybody who can afford a 1jz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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