Putty Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 So I am going to do this with a Quiken program or something. I know it needs to notarized once done and witnessed. Do I need to send a copy somewhere to make it official or once I have it completed simply placing in a safe makes it official? What if I did something wrong which would make it invalid, but I carry on like it's valid. I ask because ignorance isn't an excuse to break the law. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I know attorneys can file them. You can consult with someone regarding the issue, usually an attorney will consult for free. You can call the Columbus bar and they can make a recommendation, or someone on here like Tim or Clay with an attorney wife can recommend too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 If it's wrong and you go back to put something in it and they see it's wrong then there is a big problem. I hear you can get one done by a lawyer for a bout 200. I've looked into it for firearms and I'm going to be doing one soon. I'll probably pay a lawyer that's familiar with NFA laws just so I know it's done right and I don't have to mess around with it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Shoot me a PM...I have trusts for real estate, personal assets that I set up when my daughter was born. It's also good for keeping shit out of probate in case something happens to you. My wife doesn't practice elder law, but if you need that I've got a fella that can help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I would think if it's worth doing, it's worth having a family/estate planning lawyer do it. Especially if you are worried about doing it correctly yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 The purpose of this trust is for firearms. In order for me to have an SBR or anything fancy, I would need to fill out Form 1 or 4 in addition to having a CLEO sign off. To get around that I am going to do the trust. I am going to try and create one myself and if I feel uncertain about it, I guess I could have an attorney look it over. That would be cheaper than having them create it. It's already $200 per form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fas1k Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Any errors in your trust and you will be subjected to all the consequences of having an unlicensed NFA firearm. Big fines and I believe up to 10 years prison time, and loss of ever owning any firearm again! I would really consider not doing it yourself, there are lawyers you can contact that specialize in nfa gun trust. Last time I looked into getting one it was around $250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fas1k Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 It's only 200 per firearm for making an nfa firearm and 5 for transfer of nfa firearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 So what I was just told is the ATF verifies the integrity of your trust when you submit a form. He said you send a copy of your trust with Form 1/4, if it's no good, it gets sent back. Granted that probably a waste of 6 months, but if it gets approved, your trust is golden. He said 80% of the people he knows that have them were first timers using estate or will software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Trust created, new AR lower assigned to it. Form 1 to be completed and mailed out on Monday. SBR project underway. Suppressor research going on now to quiet her down a bit....YES PLEASE!!!!! http://www.swrsuppressors.com/img/products/specwar-556/large/SU146_Specwar_AR15_sideview.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Did you use Quicken? My buddy just used it for his. If his comes back okay then I plan on doing the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yes and I got it notarized and all. Only thing now is to send the form in. Thing about this is the BATF does not want a copy of it. Only docs you send them is the Certification of Trust (Says that a trust exists) it's notarized as well. A cert of compliance form, Form 1/4, depending on what you are doing and a $200 check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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